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If you think Great British Sailing Challenge is pompous SailGP aims to “redefine sailing”!
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Keelboats are not my area of expertise but doesn't "First in class" mean the same as "first Merlin" or "first Moth"? I'm guessing the dinghy equivalent is dev classes built to a rule. Sure there is 'one design' racing too but as a percentage of boats on the line I suspect it's very much the minority.
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No. At the top level I'd say it's 100% class racing. Even in the top IRC races, the main prestige is for line honours and first in class. The IRC is really to get the cruisers out. But there's a lot of differences between the two handicap systems and markets they serve that makes the conclusion of "big boats do it so why all the fuss" a little hard to make.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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you would think someone only had to turn up in a Oppi and win because of PY, whoever wins these events will be a name.
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KazRob ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Oct 16 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 245 |
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It's funny all this ranting about handicap dinghy sailing when it's the absolute norm further up the boat (and pocket) scales in big events and tweaking your handicap/rating the absolute norm. Arent 99% of all big boat sailing at all levels handicap events?
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I've often thought a National Series for single handers banded in groups of similar handicaps would be good.
I've not done one of the Sailjuice events so can't really comment, but the handicap event I have done a couple of times round Sheppy is quite fun, I missed it again this year, they don't publicise it that well. I agree with TT the title is preteniously lame it's hardly great or a challenge. Having said that if one surfaces near me in the summer and I get to hear about it in time I might give one a look. |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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This thread is becoming very fractious.
This could be a good platform to publicise Minisails, probably won't meet the criteria though. |
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I think if people really did sail at these events through the summer, might they all just migrate toward a consolidation of classes? I mean, if you're not holding out for class racing in the summer, why not buy the best performing cheapest boat out of the selection you see before you? It seems these events are probably the most threat toward small class with 10 boat open meetings and 20 boat nationals. If it kills off those small class events then there could well be a consolidation.
I like a handicap 'event', mostly pursuit races. They can be fun. But someone winning a handicap race has never made me sit up and think 'gosh, so and so is really a great sailor'. I just kind of wish they would push more of their considerable publicity and resources toward class racing.
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Oli ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1020 |
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if the marketing is to be believed in the future these dinghies will all tessellate together into a single container and thus the problem is solved
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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I guess its a signifier of consolidation - one which drive further consideration if club membership becomes something no longer valued.... and let's be honest, most people utilise clubs for cheap real estate for their boats rather than the racing judging by the series turnouts on their publicly available results archives.
Success in failure maybe? But if handicap racing is pretty much going to be the core offering going forward, I can't see many folks returning to sailing when they get older like they have in generations past.
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