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    Posted: 20 Sep 18 at 11:55am
That's not the point I was trying t make mozzy, apologies if I wasn't clear. Faster boats are usually more demanding to sail and are sailed by more athletic sailors (sweeping generalisation I know and not actually true in my case at least) but usually spend less time on the water than slower boats.

I have seen a pursuit race this year where the slow boat was an Optimist, an extreme case mind you.

FWIW my home club use average lap scoring pretty much across the board.


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We do average laps on a Saturday, when we have an all in one handicap race, from tera's to moths. It works on Saturday. 

We also have the option to do average laps on a Sunday for the PY banded fleets. When we brought it in we thought it would massively cut down on the hanging around between races. But actually, the PY bands were already narrow enough that most boats finished within 10 minutes of each other anyway, so you'd have to be doing more than 6 laps to make average lapping any better. Of course it's a little more random who's waiting for who, rather than faster boats systematically getting less racing time. Plus, the fleets like the option of using courses that wouldn't work with average laps. 

Average laps does put some restrictions on the racing though. All laps must be the same, and the race has to finish where it starts. Lap times have to be shorter than the gaps would otherwise be at the end of the race, so that means shorter laps, which means a more crowed race area. You can only shorten where you started. And you have to count laps. 
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All true, we sail on a relatively small lake with a fixed line most of the year. Good point about the start and finish line being the same, not sure what we do in the winter series' but we definitely use committee boat starts and finishes.
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Rupert will remember the pursuit where the slowest boat was the Puffin. We sent her off and carried on drinking tea and chatting for another hour before anyone else started and the next starters were the minisails on whom the race duration was actually based.
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Originally posted by patj

Rupert will remember the pursuit where the slowest boat was the Puffin. We sent her off and carried on drinking tea and chatting for another hour before anyone else started and the next starters were the minisails on whom the race duration was actually based.

Did the puffin win?

Our slowest boats tend to be toppers and sometimes they get a huge advantage if they get a lap or two up in a decent breeze and then it dies before the rest of us start or vice versa!


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Any thoughts on how long a pursuit race should be? PY divided by 10, 15, 18.6?
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