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    Posted: 06 Sep 18 at 12:27pm
And so if neither boat has right of way, what rules do apply? What happens if there's contact?
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Originally posted by Brass

Originally posted by mozzy

From the perspective of Y, no boats are to leeward. Y is not windward boat.
From the perspective of B, no boats are to leeward, B is not a windward boat. 

From the perspective of Y, rule 11 places no obligation on Y.
From the perspective of B, rule 11 places no obligation on B.

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 Nup.  No windward boat, no obligation under rule 11, no other Section A rule applies, no boat is right of way boat.

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So, no keep clear boat and no right of way boats. 

So we're just left with rule 14. 
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Yes.  Nothing but rule 14.

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Do rules 14.a or 14.b get a run?
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Originally posted by Brass

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Do rules 14.a or 14.b get a run?
This is a fun quiz, learnt lots!

Neither apply because there isn't a right of way boat or a boat entitles to mark room. 
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Given that neither boat is RoW boat then neither rule 14a or 14b applies.
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Exactly, so there is no chance of exoneration if there's contact. I submit its liable to be a situation where both boats are required to take penalties/DSQ.
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Thanks guys.  I think that's got us there.

Let's see if there's any more feedback from others.
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Thanks Brass. That was enlightening, not just for the answer, but how it is deduced.
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So what happens in the situation described on the fb conversation when both boats take avoiding action simultaneously but then collide (if either one had acted and the other held his course the collision would not have happened)?
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Mozzy (and others),

You might like to try reworking the problem with Y a little to the right and B a little to the left, so that they are passing port to port, and see what you get.
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