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    Posted: 23 Aug 18 at 9:26am
The X0 & X1 as a starter for a thread about excellent boats that should have made it but didn't for whatever reason.. PYAG, Financial crises or simply not on the billy no mate trend..

The Alto, The Icon to name two more..
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Had to go look those up - probably not a singlehander was the big issue? Not sure why but most crewed boats seem to be dominated by established classes whereas there are a number of newer singlehanders trying to get established???
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I suppose 'established classes' are 'established' for a good reason, boats like the Ent and Fireball got the formula right 50+ years ago (for the average sailor at least). Singlehanders were relatively unusual until the L@ser came along. I guess lifestyle/demographic changes over the intervening years have led to a big increase in sailors choosing singlehanders which in turn has led to new designs having a better chance of success.
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RS900... looked sweet... now just a wall hanging in a warehouse. 

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D -Zero? Don't seem to hear much from them these days as a boat with huge promise it seems to have been steam rollered by the RS machine in much the same way the Solution has been sidelined, both really good boats.
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D-Zero is plodding along OK for a new boat.... still one of the few I'd actually consider buying when the time's right.  
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

I suppose 'established classes' are 'established' for a good reason, boats like the Ent and Fireball got the formula right 50+ years ago (for the average sailor at least). Singlehanders were relatively unusual until the L@ser came along. I guess lifestyle/demographic changes over the intervening years have led to a big increase in sailors choosing singlehanders which in turn has led to new designs having a better chance of success.

Yeah guess your right. Funny you mention Ent and Fireball as "established classes"....I was more thinking RS200 and RS400 when I said that which I guess are the modern Ent and Fireball. Made me smile anyway
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Originally posted by mozzy

RS900... looked sweet... now just a wall hanging in a warehouse. 

Had to go look that one up on Google images too - I missed a decade or so having kids and the RS thing exploded over that time so I feel like lots happened and only some of it is still around to be seen!!
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When I saw it, it was out pacing the 49er upwind. 

Seemed better proportioned than the 49erFX in terms of boat size to crew size.

Plus it had better integration of wings than the 49er, with controls in the middle which makes more sense. 

I think the hull form was more 'sail-able' than the 49er too, basically a shorter 800.  


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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 18 at 12:44pm
RS were very clear it was a concept boat for the trials only - and yes, it was by far superior to look at compared to everything else that ponied up... except maybe the rebel, that was a sweet looking ride.

But hey, they chose to ‘shrink it and pink it’ to the 49er, and the sailors seemed happy, so wtf, do our opinions matter 😂
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