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Poll Question: Have or do you sail on a trapeze boat
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    Posted: 08 Jun 18 at 7:05am
There’s usually no set rules on these things, but a lot of sailors will try wiring and come to the conclusion it’s not right for either them or their location. Personally I enjoy the feeling of it, but I do know some people who say they feel disconnected from the boat more.

On the latter point about location, I know if I were choosing a boat for restricted waters it would always be a hiker. Even on open lakes like Rutland or Grafham, the variable wind would steer me more towards hikers over wires these days, but I might choose something more powerful- a D-One, RS300 or Blaze springs to mind, assuming I’m buying it for pure sailing rather than the racing.

Where wires really come into their own is upwind in open water - be that sea swell or estuary chop.... that stuff is hard work in a hiking boat and the wire would always pay for me in those conditions.

Out here in Valencia I would love a Contender one day... that would be a cracking boat here.

Edited by turnturtle - 08 Jun 18 at 7:08am
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I crewed an Osprey recently, but inland on a puddle, being able to tack quickly means hiking boats.
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Yep, N12s used to smash us in 420s during our inland puddle winter series when I was a kid.

I can’t remember the handicap difference (we were 115 I think, Laser 114). Lasers and 12s destroyed us over the water, never mind on handicap
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one if the funniest things I’ve seen in sailing is some mad bugger trying to sail an RS600 on Frensham Pond. Typhoo have less tea-bags.
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I gave up because I moved to somewhere that is not suitable for a Contender, and I'm more interested in fleet racing where I live than travelling 40min to somewhere I could have sailed it in a handicap fleet.
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Originally posted by PeterG

I gave up because I moved to somewhere that is not suitable for a Contender, and I'm more interested in fleet racing where I live than travelling 40min to somewhere I could have sailed it in a handicap fleet.
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Is there a 'sensible' class racing wire boat?

I suppose the Contender is about the only act in town really if you have a crane handy to launch and recover.

Funny, I was thinking last night as once again I found myself at the back of the fleet (OCS start and didn't get told till halfway up the first beat) wether I should re visit my previous nemesis, the MPS, now with my new arsenal of actual sailing skills, then I remembered it wasn't the lightest tool in the box either. Then once again the top out to sea reach delivered such exquisite joy, it didn't matter where I was in the fleet or wether there were lots of the same boat to race against.

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Must Skiff - class racing at Stokes Bay (sounds pretty awesome to be honest)

Are there any real contender fleets in the U.K.? It’s a travellers boat isn’t it?
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Originally posted by iGRF

Is there a 'sensible' class racing wire boat?

You talking about club racing or also including open meeting fleets?

HISC has Fireballs and 29ers regularly getting class starts. 700s are in the fast fleet, but often get good turnouts (a couple of weekends ago they had 10 out, but it's quite often half a dozen). 

I know fireballs used to get club based fleet racing at a few midland clubs I visited as a kid (Ogston, Draycote, Chelmarsh, Staunton Harold, Northmapton) not sure if true fleet racing still exists there or not. 

Itchenor have class racing in the 800s. I think HISC could do if we got our act together a bit more. 

Itchenor also have class racing for I14. 

Mustos at stokes, datchet, and maybe rutland? 

Including open meeting fleets there are a few more. 


Edited by mozzy - 08 Jun 18 at 11:12am
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Posts: 310 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Gordon 1430 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 18 at 11:16am
Yes have both crewed Osprey, 505, FD. 
Helmed and wired, 800 and Int14. 
At at my size I am better of helming a sitting out boat hence the Phantom.
No trapeze single hander needs 110kg.
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