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    Posted: 09 Feb 18 at 4:45pm
Like, lead weight on the trapeze wires?

Leaving aside its probably against class rules I would have thought it was slower to add weight to both wires. 
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Originally posted by E.J.

You can also use 1:1 with the rope above the cleat with a cobra cleat. Useful if you prefer tacking sticks

Got a picture? Not sure I know what a cobra cleat is or how one would use one on a trapeze
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Originally posted by mozzy

Like, lead weight on the trapeze wires?
Leaving aside its probably against class rules I would have thought it was slower to add weight to both wires. 
Yep you'd only use it if it's breezy and less of a ballache than a weight jacket, they could be clipped on and off to suit. Just wondering and those harnesses nobody's built an impact vest and harness combined yet either I bet, it's like the dark ages here..
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Maybe give the lead on the trapeze lines a miss heh? 
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I think they have the cobra cleat above the handle / disc on a tack stick, that way for those athletic / coordinated types who go out straight arm then hook on the distance between eye and handle always  remains constant for perfect ergonomics whatever height is set.  

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That’s the badger, although tack sticks are handy for easy unhooking and as you say keeping the handle at the perfect height. You don’t have to do the athletic bit, here they are;

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Originally posted by Do Different

Here y'go Sam. 

 http://www.shocksailing.com/product-clam-cleat-rope-guide.html

That is 2:1 in a sense, because the line between the cleat and your hand is taking half the weight when you adjust it.
It's 1:1 when it's cleated I suppose.
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Originally posted by Do Different

Maybe give the lead on the trapeze lines a miss heh? 
Ouch

After they've hit you in the head a few times, you realise the lighter the better.
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Originally posted by Do Different

Here y'go Sam. 

 http://www.shocksailing.com/product-clam-cleat-rope-guide.html

Thanks, I may try that.  Smile But (pedant alert) strictly speaking that's a 2:1 .........  Embarrassed

edit :- eric got there first.....


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Originally posted by Do Different

Re. wiring. As better boys than me will atest to. Length of wire does not effect your mass but it does effect your weight on the wire and its effectiveness in relation to righting effort.

  
Length of wire affects how horizontal your body is, and hence how small a wave or helm error results in a dunking.
Horizontal is less drag, but only so long as you stay dry.
On a wide boat the difference in leverage between horizontal and e.g. 20 degrees up is not huge.
Probably more important to be able to get in and out quickly.
Then of course some classes have dabbled with short wires and windward heel.

It's all really fine detail until you get better than I ever was and eliminate the swimming.
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