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    Posted: 09 Feb 18 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by jcooper


Also what is an Aero like to hike in - from a quick search of photos it looks as though most people use a semi-bent leg style?

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Not as nice as a D Zero if you're looking for modern boats or my Solution which isn't bad either given it's wider, I didn't like the riding position of the Aero which is probably something to do with the length of my legs, a shame because they are nice boats.

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Re. wiring. As better boys than me will atest to. Length of wire does not effect your mass but it does effect your weight on the wire and its effectiveness in relation to righting effort.

  
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I'd say the length of the wire is what determines the position of your CoG when trapezing straight legged. The shorter it is the closer to the centreline it will be (imagine rotating from horizontal to vertical around your feet so your CoG moves from, say, 1 metre from the side of the boat to directly above the side. Moving the hook up or down your body makes little difference, particularly when you're flat trapezing as almost all of your body weight is on the hook. The crucial thing is to have balance with just a little weight on your feet.

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If you put the hook high on your body you'll just end up doing more work to hold good posture, to stop your bum drooping. 

I've got new trapeze lines to test this weekend. Shocksailing disc handle which sits lower on the cleat, meaning the adjustable range below the handle is greater (you can trap higher for a given hand height). Or you if you don't need to trapeze higher it means the handle is easier to reach when adjuster is at it's longest. Should be a bit more ergonomic too. 

I've got about 4 inches of adjustment in the trapeze line above the handle. At it's highest I can just about get flat wiring upwind but at it's longest I can get pretty much flat when in the foot loops at the downwind. 

Also trying 1:1 purchase too. Theory is less adjuster tail to deal with when high wiring (everyone must have stepped on their adjust tail and uncleated at least once before! right?). 
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Yes (more than once.......) How will you implement a 1:1 adjuster? I can't see a way to do it, 2:1 seems to be the minimum possible.

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Here y'go Sam. 

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Yeah, that's it. 

Allow the cleat to hold in line while you adjust. From looking at a few videos and from what I've been told it's not as smooth as 2:1. But I don't like to adjust the height that often anyway and it solves the stepping on the long tail issue... we'll see how I get on soon enough....
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As to the other question regarding QR hooks I'll use my kite hook which has a trigger release and a lock in gate if necessary. If anyone wants one I've got loads of them, redundant stock from the early days of kiting pre release systems. You just need to ditch the spinning leash that's integral unless you fancy leashing yourself to the boat which, thinking about it, probably isn't a bad idea whilst I get to grips with it.

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You can also use 1:1 with the rope above the cleat with a cobra cleat. Useful if you prefer tacking sticks
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So next question weights on the wires, anyone done it, another few kilos when it's windy wouldn't go amiss?

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