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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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So you wouldn't for example, think to highlight 3 or 4 weekends/Sundays in advance at Grafham to boost the local fleet race and maybe offer some cross-over / wrap-around training? £20 a weekend into the tin.... Naturally with a Thursday night green or red flag on the facebook group / email list depending on the forecast??? It's a rhetorical question of course, and by no means meant as a criticism. My point is that consolidation into the SJ series is the default option now for a lot of class winter programmes, but there are and always were other options that might be worth re-visiting at your (or any other) class committee meetings. Edited by turnturtle - 14 Nov 17 at 1:32pm |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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I think the point is that because there are a series of events some classes have chosen to run a winter series off the back of them. This is what the D-Zero class has done and continues to do.
If there were not these big events it is unlikely we would run anything. As a side note anyone know if the Steve Nicks is happening in 2018? Still nothing on their website about it.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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"Next up in the UK this Winter is the RS Aero Winter Series which will be up to 10 events chosen from some of the most popular mixed class winter events, spread around the country and starting with the Brass Monkey at Yorkshire Dales SC on 27th December."
from a front page article.....
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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so you guys are seriously suggesting that some classes don't utilise these events as part of their winter programme??? http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/175306/RS200-Winter-Warm-Up https://www.d-zerosailing.org/d-zero-winter-series-20172018/ http://www.rsaerosailing.org/index.asp?p=forum&fid=7&tid=7527 all a bit different from the Solo Super Series which runs through the winter: https://www.solosailing.org.uk/event-series/super-series/2017/ or some of the larger winter champs in classes like the Laser or Merlin Rocket.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I'm trying to actually quantify why it is that i don't travel, it's been three years as my facebook page reminded me today since that FOM. I had promised myself I'd do the Solution Nationals, but a wedding came along to scotch that, then I thought maybe this year I'll do one of those SJ events, then this gap came about between my regular sailing and now.
Then there's the question of the plug having come off the trailer board and not sure if I have the right number plate, and the difficulty getting number plates for trailer boards these days, then there's the sail it's a bit knackered to take on big water areas, then there's the 'who else is going I might know' question, not that that worries me particularly, I've never been short of the ability to make new friends, but it helps just dragging boats about here and there, so travelling as a pair is always easier than going single. So I'm going to suggest that might be part of the reason, the trend away from double handers probably reduces the numbers that travel, it is more hassle travelling as Billy No Mate and even if two of you travel in cars side by side, it's not the same. Then there is also the question of being asked and what is exactly the upside, what's to be gained? Time was, it would be experience, but at our age are we really so devoid of experience we want to endure the M20/M26/M25 <insert appropriate Mway>/Eastern European TIR sideswipe experience for pleasure? So it gets to the point there are more reasons not to go than there are in favour, so it's easier to find further excuses to back the decision to stay put and get in the line up to do battle once more with the Miracle Mums and Mirror embryos down the puddle. Edited by iGRF - 14 Nov 17 at 11:24am |
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Oh nonsense. Class events have never been held over the winter.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Oh nonsense. Class events have never been held over the winter. |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Mutual exclusivity is interesting.
I know of several classes which have used the SJ series, or a picked a few of them, to act as their 'Winter Series'.... I'm not suggesting this is either right or wrong, or positive or negative; (opinion on this is rather moot), but it is symptomatic of consolidation where stand alone, or shared class racing regattas, are not sustainable for some classes. |
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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I do wonder how long the reality of handicap racing will hold that interest...??!
Not the point though. It is not a mutually exclusive decision..... many/most of us will be doing our own class events as well ...major Opens, Inlands and Nationals. Handicap racing is hardly new or novel in the 'mix' and has already been around for a long long time ..... But I guess there will always be those who only need or seek the challenge, 'excitement' and regularity of the Oh so predictable local pecking order on that stunning local water seeing the same old faces each and every time ... next Sunday and the following Sunday after that and the one that follows ad infinitum ... Still there is always the keyboard one-design class for a bit of variety .... or mowing the grass. ![]() |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Or it’s the natural effects of a consolidated market ... when travelling to get your fix is your thing (some do, some don’t... good analysis btw, but I’d add ‘keenies’ of less popular classes have traditionally been prepared to earn their class racing with more miles), I do wonder how long the reality of handicap racing will hold that interest...??! The glee of ‘better marketed’ handicap events might just be small battle victories in a losing war perhaps?
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