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iGRF 
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Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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 Topic: Travellers Series...Posted: 11 Nov 17 at 2:29pm |
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Are there any stand alone events left which don't fall under the Sailjuice Mafia?
Does the Burnham Icicle still happen, that always used to be a key winter event back in the day, a bit like the Bloody Mary was. It would be nice to have at least a couple of events that haven't been f**ked about by them. Edited by iGRF - 11 Nov 17 at 2:29pm |
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Cirrus
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Posted: 11 Nov 17 at 4:16pm |
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It would be nice to have at least a couple of events that haven't been f**ked about by them.
They are there but you are letting that tenuous grip on the facts slip further now. Having never attended a single SJ event yourself you know all about how 'it should be run' etc. Hey ho we've been here before .... But are you implying you would really come along to one that is outside of the SJ 'evil empire' series ? .... Now do we waste any more time suggesting a few for you to reject or not ? .... So you would attend ? Do you really really want to enter an event with more than half a dozen locals for company ? .....Ah thought so, it is still a determined 'No' from deepest Kent. ? Why would anybody waste time listing them for you to pick over ..... Think 'keyboard class' continues to enjoy the handicap it deserves really - based on repeated and self inflicted 'no shows'. Life is too short for 'carping' from the sidelines. You seemingly have little intention of attending any winter events, SJ or otherwise, so why get so wound up over events that are not of any interest to you. Just go sailing where you like, when you like with whoever, organise your own GRFi series complete with GRFi handicaps - and leave the rest of us to get on with what we enjoy. And if your model works well many would enter both. .... and still maintain an open mind !  Edited by Cirrus - 11 Nov 17 at 4:17pm |
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fab100
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Posted: 11 Nov 17 at 6:26pm |
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the Frensham Frenzy is not SailJuice, so come and show us what you are made of.
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Steve411
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Posted: 11 Nov 17 at 6:36pm |
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Stevie Nics at Northampton is usually good and a sell out despite being non-SJ. |
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turnturtle
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Posted: 11 Nov 17 at 9:22pm |
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Cracking event - highly recommended
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zeon
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Posted: 12 Nov 17 at 12:37am |
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The draycote dash is only up the road from me, but the thought of doing four races back to back on a cold winter day is not attractive. Am I the only one? 😀
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turnturtle
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Posted: 12 Nov 17 at 8:06am |
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It’s not the Saturday that ever put me off, it was the non discardable pursuit race on the Sunday
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NickM99
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Posted: 12 Nov 17 at 9:55am |
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The Solos have an annual "super Series" consisting of ten Championship style events spread throughout the year. 283 boats took part in at least one race and 53 met the qualification criteria of entering four events. Quite a healthy result.
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JimC
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Posted: 12 Nov 17 at 10:25am |
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And yet even that is 80% of the fleet not feeling that they are sufficiently interested in the series to do enough events to qualify. I suppose a more rigorous analysis would exclude from the totals everyone who only does their home event and doesn't actually travel at all. I do think its worth looking at numbers with things like this. Especially if you're involved in CA management. Its worrying, looking back, that when I was involved in running a Class association I'm not sure we ever discussed what our priorities were formally. However the top ones must have been :
We were always painfully aware that we weren't doing enough for people who weren't that bothered by the formal events, but never really worked out what to do about it. If you look at the numbers and also the polls I knocked up a while back it seems that most sailors are not especially bothered about class racing at their clubs, and are not even bothered about regular class racing in open series. The numbers strongly suggest that for most folk its an occasional treat. So, what are they bothered about, and how do those of us involved in the administration of the sport best support them? Because if we aren't supporting the majority of those involved, what are we doing it for? Edited by JimC - 12 Nov 17 at 10:41am |
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zeon
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Posted: 12 Nov 17 at 6:10pm |
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It not the four races that’s the problem, its the fact they are all back to back. Never found sailing around for five/six hour with my own wee for company much fun On a more serious note, quite a few of my club members ( including me)would do it event if it was just a pursuit. Even though it’s at draycote.
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