Ultra 30?

   Sounds like a moneypit to me: I think you'd need to be clinically insane to want to get into that...

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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Ultra 30? Posted: 12 Sep 17 at 9:38pm
	Sounds like a moneypit to me: I think you'd need to be clinically insane to want to get into that...

Sheetpuller Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 22 Feb 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 114	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sheetpuller Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Sep 17 at 9:27pm
	If anybody really wants to try an Ultra 30 (and let's face it, you'd need to be clinically dead not to!) then Ebay is your friend... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ultra-30-Racing-Yacht-/272841913202?hash=item3f86a53372:g:mYMAAOSwlnZZtZCW Sounds like a pretty cheap blast to me!
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GG NHRC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 12 Feb 17 Location: Lymington Online Status: Offline Posts: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote GG NHRC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 17 at 6:27am
	Time to modernise and resurrect this concept....! I'm thinking thirty foot 49er on steroids

OBC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 09 Dec 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote OBC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 12 at 9:48am
	I know Tom Humphreys [Rob H son] was toying with the idea of putting a canting keel/ daggerboard arrangement on one and converting it into some sort of mini vendee thing. He may have got as far as pulling drawings together, but it was a few years back and I've heard nothing on the subject. Why not contact Rob or Tom and see what they might have to say? Edited by OBC - 18 Dec 12 at 9:49am
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Oatsandbeans Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 19 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 382	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oatsandbeans Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 12 at 7:46am
	Yes, I sailed in an Ultra 30 that had no ballast in the centreboard (RM). It was fast but a complete pain when it went over. I think that we could just about stop it inverting, with all the crew on the board, but really difficult to right it without the support boat help.

Rockstar Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 02 Oct 05 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rockstar Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 12 at 4:00pm
	https://picasaweb.google.com/103886784277369406551/Hyper Was wondering about buoyancy as keel weight was increased... does 1000kg float OK? Or to look at it from the other side, what size rig will the 350 kg at 2.4 m hold? Possibly the Cork 1720 rig is too conservative. Hyper had 120kg added since that capsize shown above.
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sea dog Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 30 Jul 10 Location: Isle Of Man Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote sea dog Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 12 at 2:56pm
	The original board was made of softwood with GRP skin and had no ballast (it actually floated!). Changes allowed lead shot at the bottom of the standard board up to 135kg. These boats are virtually un-sailable with out serious ballast.
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Noah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611	Post Options Post Reply Quote Noah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 12 at 2:51pm
	What does the original keel / bulb weigh? I seem to remember 1000Kg being mentioned but that might have been all-up weight.
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sea dog Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 30 Jul 10 Location: Isle Of Man Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote sea dog Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 12 at 2:50pm
	350kg on standard board (2.4m) will not be enough to stop inversion after capsize. I have photos of Zombie inverted with that set up. I have 500kg at 2.95m draft. It does not invert and when you eventually manage to capsize it you can right it with the sails still up. Rig is very strong and does not need the runners without the kite up. Armour plated under garments ar required before you put the big kite up (2000sq ft). What was the name of the boat you bought? Good luck.
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Rockstar Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 02 Oct 05 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rockstar Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 12 at 1:47pm
	OK, Got the Ultra 30. It has got the most rediculously complicated rig I have ever seen. So plan is to build a new keel with 350 kg on the bulb and reinforce keel box. Hope to stick a smaller rig on for a few test sails with the racks to see how much beam we need to keep it upright. Hope it has enough buoyancy for the ballast. After that , all going well we will source a permanent mast and sails if it looks worth the investment ($$€€ big if !!). Ideally to end up with a boat looking something like the' Phuket Sports 8'. See what the guys on Zombie have done.. http://www.facebook.com/ZombieRacing Any ideas?
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