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Tail Gunner ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 30 Jul 17 Location: kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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Hi All,
Thanks for your help with this one, I don't claim to know all the rules and have definitely learnt something now. Plus a good one for the team to remember should anything like this happen again. Many thanks ![]() |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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There's a lesson for all of us in this story: when conducting anything to do with protests make sure you have the rule book open and refer to it. Its all too easy to think that you know this stuff and miss something vital, as it would appear this RC and PC did.
Anyway, glad you got the hearing in the end. |
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piglet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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FYI outcome of re-hearimg.
PRO viewed the boat himself and declared the damage serious. Protestee found at fault for collision and was scored a DSQ for previous race as penalty. Edited by piglet - 28 Jul 17 at 12:09pm |
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sargesail ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1459 |
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And if they won't reopen then appeal. Zero tolerance for RC protest cop outs!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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No serious damage then?
If there was serious damage then you may wish to remind them of that paragraph, and ask them to consider reopening the hearing under RRS66. You are also entitled to ask for a reopening within 24 hours of hearing the decision. Edited by JimC - 25 Jul 17 at 10:13pm |
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piglet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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The protest was heard but thrown out because the protestor had not hailed protest at the time. The protestors were sitting hove to chatting and having a snack when they were T-boned so hailing didn't occur to them.
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sargesail ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1459 |
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Piglet, I assume the original request was in time limit? It's awful when a RC won't accept a protest (I nearly wrote valid protest - but that's the point: the RC has to accept it and the PC decides if it is valid).
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piglet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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Thanks Jim, Race committee rescinded and logged protest. Let's see if they throw it out for being outside time limit.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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Well, I guess I'd start by politely and quietly asking them to review the RRS, and let them know you will appeal if necessary. As well as the preamble quoted above there's also 63.1
(My emphasis.) My understanding is that they could find, in a hearing, that the RRS don't apply, but they may not refuse to hold a hearing. Edited by JimC - 25 Jul 17 at 2:44pm |
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piglet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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Thanks for prompt reply Jim, this is all happening as we speak!
So, your advice is appeal against race committee for not accepting protest? |
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