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    Posted: 09 Oct 17 at 11:58am
Originally posted by Brass

 
  • The requirement is two tacks and two gybes, NOT 720 degrees:  if, starting from close hauled, TWA 45 degrees, you tack first, your second gybe will come out, say TWA 175 degrees, that's 130 degrees below your old close hauled course, and you will now have completed your penalty and will have all your rights while you come up to that course, po whatever course you need to sail:  this may be useful in large fleets with lots of boats around (although, it's quite difficult to do the necessary time and space estimate just at the time when you're initially responding to the incident).

I get the idea behind this, but in reality you would have to stop heading up to assert those rights(rule 16)
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Good article. Thanks Brass.
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Good article here


But there are a few other key considerations:
  • After an incident, there is often an 'open side' where there is room for you to do your turns, in contrast to a 'closed side' where you are not well clear of other boats:  in this case, it is often best to start your turns by turning into the open space:  for example, suppose you have failed to keep clear of a boat clear ahead, and there are boats to windward but not to leeward, then rolling into a gybe to start your penalty may be the best course.
  • The requirement is two tacks and two gybes, NOT 720 degrees:  if, starting from close hauled, TWA 45 degrees, you tack first, your second gybe will come out, say TWA 175 degrees, that's 130 degrees below your old close hauled course, and you will now have completed your penalty and will have all your rights while you come up to that course, po whatever course you need to sail:  this may be useful in large fleets with lots of boats around (although, it's quite difficult to do the necessary time and space estimate just at the time when you're initially responding to the incident).
  • Depending where you are relative to marks, you may be quite happy to complete your penalty on a different course to the course you were initially sailing:  for example, suppose you have an incident, round about abeam of a windward mark;  if you stand on on your original close hauled course till well clear of other boats, somewhat upwind and outside the mark, then start with a tack, you will complete your penalty on a downwind course, hopefully having left the mark on the required side, and facing on the course to the downwind mark.
Maybe some team racing folk have some useful 'rules of thumb'?
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It will depend on a host of factors, including whether you are on a downwind or upwind leg.
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If you have to spin, once you are clear of other boats etc. etc, is it best to start with a tack or gybe? My instinct would be to tack if it was windy but maybe gybe if it was light to work up some momentum.
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