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GarethT 
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 Topic: BAR personnelPosted: 08 Jun 17 at 9:28pm |
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I think they just lost cos it was their first campaign and they had a lot more learning to do.
They made amazing progress throughout the regatta, and start the next cycle much higher up the curve. |
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Notl
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Posted: 08 Jun 17 at 8:59pm |
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BAR sailed the same speed as NZ when they were in close proximity.
This indicates to me that boat speed was equal. NZ are sailing a better course and winning more starts. That is one reason they won probably due to easier to use technology. Leg muscles are stronger than arm muscles so they also expend less energy. Leaving more for sailing the boat. But the other is that British culture shuns thinking outside the box. Creative inventive thinkers are put down as stupid in the UK. That attitude will always lead to failure in technical events. The problem is with the whole UK who only respect bankers and University graduates who are not often the most technically creative. That is why the iPhone is American and Elon Musk is sucessful in America. The UK probably has the most creative brains in the world but they are wasted un the UK. To win the AC Ben needs to employ the crackpots with the mad ideas. My first design when I started sailing was for a winged keel. I did not patent it because I knew it would be a waste of time in the UK. Not thinking outside the box is why Ben Ainslie lost. |
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423zero
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Posted: 06 Jun 17 at 9:37pm |
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Live news link at the moment on youtube.
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Notl
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Posted: 06 Jun 17 at 8:59pm |
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Whoa, Having seen BAR being cautious I was wondering if NZ might get carried away and break something.
I saw the Kiwis suddenly go Zero Knots on Virtual Eye. Heard the news about the pitch pole on the live comentary. No racing tomorrow though I suspect due to very strong winds forecast. So NZ get time to fix their boat which I suspect they will do unless damage too great. |
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Notl
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Posted: 06 Jun 17 at 2:32pm |
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Seems to be a shambles for BAR gifting the NZs 2 races.
Ben always does better under pressure and he has certainly got that. Leg muscles are stronger than arm muscles so I suspect BAR are done for. To win the AC teams have to think right ouside the box. NZ have that can do attitude. I hope BEN wins but I don't see it now. |
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JohnJack
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Posted: 06 Jun 17 at 11:28am |
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I wonder how much the crew weight effects balancing the power of the sail?
If you think about it, the grinders are more, purely just power generation by the looks of it (though others have differing other job). Seems daft that they have to cross the boat (so there is a break in power generation) all the time rather than just having a "central" position where they just get there head down and grind, or even a recumbent cycling position to aid aero.
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FreshScum
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Posted: 05 Jun 17 at 7:31pm |
CJ, Hutton and Freddie have sailed in various combinations for 15+ years, winning stuff from Youth Matchracing to Extreme 40 series. They're as tight as any of the teams. As Pete Burling said, at this level, dry laps should be the minimum standard. So you're looking for the optimum lift/drag trade-off assuming minimal mistakes. I think it might just be quite hard to sail these boats...
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Fatboi
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Posted: 05 Jun 17 at 4:58pm |
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The nose down deloads the rudder and they are only allowed 3 degrees of movement in the rudder, so has to be like this.
BAR are doing a lot better than they were a month ago in all of the testing. A shame NZ picked them, as they are looking like an awesome outfit at the moment. All down to the aerodynamics and consistent development. Look what happened in the last cup, got a load more boat speed and were able to turn around the deficit amazingly. The strangest thing to me is the amount of teams letting the losing boat split, so much risk doing that!
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Notl
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Posted: 04 Jun 17 at 8:25pm |
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No racing due to light winds.
That is like a win for Ben. Time to get it together, no more light winds forecast for next few days. I am sure the team will be working all hours. |
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423zero
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Posted: 04 Jun 17 at 3:33pm |
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Aerodynamic drag ! must be a substantial gain to risk dropping nose in.
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