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    Posted: 02 Jun 17 at 4:10pm
For me I think it a systemic organisational issue. There tactic is to continually develop. They have brought in F1 supremo Martin Whitmarsh presumably because of is understanding of the team dynamics required for hi-tec, constantly developing sport. Unfortunately Sailing is far more unpredictable than motor racing. Slapping on a new bit of aero on to a car and testing it will give far more predictable results on any given race track. Even if that bit of areo flexes more and the detaches the flow. Slap on a new bit of areo on a yacht and sail the same race track (sailing area) and you'll get a thousand different results. Hence why you two boat test. And it takes more time than they are allotting to achieve control over there developments than they have. In my opinion. So you might be faster with a foil with a bigger bucket curve than the one your graph tells you if super quick. Just because you can't sail it well enough because of the variables. For me BAR look like they are chasing the computer numbers to much. And have forgotten about having enough margin. Unlike ETNZ, who look like they have taken the very pragmatic approach of being able to always have enough 'fluid pressure' to pull off manoeuvres that they didn't expect. Which gives them a hefty margin to work with. We are on the edge, and repeatedly fall off it.
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So,,,,what actually happened... there was a breakage and the foil in the starboard hull wasn't able to be adjusted during the first gybe against ETNZ.
In order to be able to sail in the race against Groupama Team France they needed to make repairs. In order to have enough time to do that, they retired.
Arguably they should have retired against Softbank Team Japan. The damage that was found to have occurred at the end of the race almost ended their campaign.
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NZ were sailing 50percent faster than BAR.
That is what happened.

Light wind sailing is a skill and art developed by years of experience doing it.
I sailed many light wind races in wind speeds below force 1. Great fun especially being able to sail twice the speed of the rest of the fleet. Ben needs some experienced light wind inland sailors to help him out.
When the winds are light you need to know all the secrets.

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Boatspeed makes you a tactical genius... no boatspeed makes (even Ben) look like an idiot.  Our observation is that our grinders seem to be spinning slower and less smoothly than everyone else, and by yesterday's performance they need bigger and more stall tolerant foils
Happily living in the past
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It does seem that all of the other teams have a specialist helm

Cant really imagine Ben giving the helm over to anyone else though

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Who trims the foils?  That's seems the weakest part. They beat NZ to the first mark, but splash down too often when turning. 
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You would have thought rigging issues would have been sorted out well before main event, that he seems to be an adjustment behind other boats.
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Always the same once they become celebs.. hunger all gone.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 17 at 9:33pm
One suspects Mr Ainslie retired to avoid getting into the history books with the all time greatest losing margin...
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