Rope advice

   I agree
All continuous splice control lines I have done are just cover to cover, no core splice. Even the furling lines for the VO65s are basically a cover. To cover splice.

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GG NHRC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 12 Feb 17 Location: Lymington Online Status: Offline Posts: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote GG NHRC Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Rope advice Posted: 09 Apr 17 at 10:49pm
	I agree All continuous splice control lines I have done are just cover to cover, no core splice. Even the furling lines for the VO65s are basically a cover. To cover splice.

laser193713 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889	Post Options Post Reply Quote laser193713 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 17 at 5:22pm
	I'm wondering whether this continuous control rope is actually necessary. Bearing in mind that the highest loads you're going to see in a control line with adequate purchase is around 50kgs, would it not be possible to do the continuous line splice in something more normal. Just strip the core out and to the outer to outer splice anyway. I'm sure the outer would be plenty strong enough without to core on almost any rope! I mean, you get 0.5mm fishing line that holds over 100kgs!

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	for end to end continuous joins in excel control etc you have to use a PULL fid not a PUSH fid. Even the smallest push fid won't go through. These are brill http://www.sailboats.co.uk/splicing-fid-tool . This won't work (though fantastic for D12 etc) http://www.sailboats.co.uk/marlow-splicing-fid-for-4mm-rope Splicing is fun. I sometimes splice stuff just for the fun of it and have lots of useless joined up ropes and loops to show for it!
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	I use both depending on which bit of the splice I am doing. The pull fid can be difficult though and sometimes requires gloves.
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	Think 4mm is smallest fid Jamie, you'll need either one of the long needle type or a wire loop type. I prefer the needle type for 3 &4 mm but then a wire for sizes like 2.5 down
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Jamie600 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jun 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 718	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jamie600 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 17 at 12:37pm
	Apologies for resurrecting an old thread but this came up on a search when I was trying to find out what size fid to use for the English Braids rope. A 4mm fid does not quite fit the 4mm rope, would I need a needle fid?
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	No they are not. They are owned by the same person, but the two companies are run in direct competition. The English braids control line is much more user friendly than the Marlow one, and being dyneema rather than technora stays softer. too. Excel control in my experience goes rock hard within 6 months.

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	Aren't English braids and Marlow the same company making the exact same rope? English braids bought Marlow in 05 as far as i remember.

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	Have a look at www.dinghy-rope.co.uk for rope,
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Kev M Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 05 Dec 11 Location: Landlocked Online Status: Offline Posts: 346	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kev M Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 14 at 11:03pm
	You'll need some tools for it,a needle and a fid, but it's not that hard. I picked it all up from the videos on the Rooster youtube channel. I'd recommend the English besides braids offer the Marlow type. I find it easier to splice and it feels nice in the hand too. Edited by Kev M - 22 Sep 14 at 9:54pm
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