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    Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 8:40pm
I'll bet that's not entirely true. I suspect they could all set a course, just not one that a bunch of sailing anoraks considers proper.  Who cares if the beat isn't square or there's no run? If someone is volunteering their free time to run a race for you, you should be grateful!  
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Duties have always been a small problem at our club in leafy Oxfordshire. One success was allowing people to choose between race duties, and catering on a Sunday. Result-everyone does what they are comfortable with, and we have had restaurant-quality lunches every week (except August-no galley) for £2.50 per head. The vegetable curry at Sunday's prizegiving merited the biggest trophy of the year in my opinion.

For those who don't sail, or can't cook, winter work parties maintaining the club grounds works too. Something for everyone, and out of about 500 adult members down to do duties, only half a dozen refuse to do anything. So we take their money anyway.
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Haha, no, tbf they are all interested, but can't grasp basics, we have a peg board and string, but even with this, blank looks. I never set a purists course when I am on duty, I always set a course to suit Laser type boats, fast reaching, no runs.
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What? L@sers love runs (just look at Steve Cockrell's video).....
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There was an explosion of sailing clubs in the second half of the last century. Nature will take its course. Some will thrive. Some will wither and fade away.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 17 at 8:38am
Exactly. Of course it is fine to academically observe and speculate. However, I can see little to no material benefit from the exercise.
There is no universal rule, some Clubs are businesses and some are truly Clubs in the old sense. Rural lakes, Municipal Waters, Fee  paying harbours, Beaches.
Little or much, slow or fast, Clubs will follow demand. 
Sailing is by it's very nature weather dependant self motivated activity, which ultimately means you can only sell it to people who want to do it anyway.
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Originally posted by A2Z

I'll bet that's not entirely true. I suspect they could all set a course, just not one that a bunch of sailing anoraks considers proper.  Who cares if the beat isn't square or there's no run? If someone is volunteering their free time to run a race for you, you should be grateful!  


I'll take it that your not joking.

You make it sound like a one way street. If I was giving time and effort with nothing in return then yes I could see your point.

I assume your club has a duty rota where all contribute, so it's a two way street. It's reciprocal, you are returning some effort to the communal pot that you also take advantage of, returning a favour. 

personally, I've laid some crap courses over the years but I think my efforts have improved.
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Duties are part of the deal, I want to race, for me to do that there has to be, at the very least somebody to run the start sequence and log the finish. Some kind of safety cover is nice too. If we're not paying somebody to do that then we all have to take a turn or nobody gets to race.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 17 at 10:20am
Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Duties are part of the deal, I want to race, for me to do that there has to be, at the very least somebody to run the start sequence and log the finish. Some kind of safety cover is nice too. If we're not paying somebody to do that then we all have to take a turn or nobody gets to race.


Absolutely, and if course setting is not done to a reasonable quality, that affects the whole quality of the club. Likewise if you can't get served at the bar, or get a cup of tea. Or any of the other things that volunteers and duty members might be doing to make the club work. It's all part of the deal.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Duties are part of the deal, I want to race, for me to do that there has to be, at the very least somebody to run the start sequence and log the finish. Some kind of safety cover is nice too. If we're not paying somebody to do that then we all have to take a turn or nobody gets to race.

is that idea so pejorative...?  I know a good few excellent sailors in retirement age, and indeed still in education, who might very easily be persuaded that their time could be better valued at a decent sailing club rather than stacking shelves in Tesco or answering banal questions from the plebs that frequent B&Q on a Saturday morning.



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