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    Posted: 20 Feb 17 at 9:46pm
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Maybe it would be a good thing if everybody stayed rigidly on topic but the forum would probably be a less interesting place.
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Originally posted by Rupert

But don't forget, there is an old banger in the Hadron's recent past.

What on earth are you talking about?
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Originally posted by RS400atC


Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

I think we're missing the point here though, in many classes it's certainly possible to enter a national championship and get a decent (top 10) finish in an old £1500 boat and it's certainly possible to find accommodation for significantly less than £1500. Sure it ain't gonna happen in a Merlin but you pays your money....... And if (like me) you're sailing a £1500 boat you probably aren't at the level where you'd win the Nats even in a brand spanking new boat.
No, I think it's you missing the point.This thread is about the Hadron.Clue is in the title.It's not about old banger boats, or how much cheaper canoeing is.It's about a new boat. In the Dinghy Development forum.

Fair enough, threads creep, it's just like a conversation down the pub........


Without thread creep, this discussion would be somewhat shorter and wouldn't occupy the top spot half as often. Does need to be dragged back every now and again. But don't forget, there is an old banger in the Hadron's recent past.
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Even with a foot well the Phantom has at least 160mm less boom clearance than the H2.
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Originally posted by Phil_1193

Originally posted by jeffers



I believe you can get Ovi to do one or get one built with a half and half cockpit (self draining at the back, deeper at the front). Combine that with a thwart helps with the kneeling issues.


Thats half right

Ovi hull (all moulded hulls have to come out of the class owned mould currently with Ovi) that is then fitted out by JJ boats either in wood or epoxy top side.

Floor is the same height as other double floor self drainers, with a foot well cut out around the helming position keeping the rear part of the double floor as a bouyancy tank.

No need for a thwart, although these can be (retro) fitted to the standard double floor boats

The dropped footwell can and has been retro fitted by JJ and others to Epoxy  hulls

There are photos of the dropped footwell on the JJ website:- http://www.jjboats.co.uk/boats/phantom

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Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

I think we're missing the point here though, in many classes it's certainly possible to enter a national championship and get a decent (top 10) finish in an old £1500 boat and it's certainly possible to find accommodation for significantly less than £1500. Sure it ain't gonna happen in a Merlin but you pays your money....... And if (like me) you're sailing a £1500 boat you probably aren't at the level where you'd win the Nats even in a brand spanking new boat.

No, I think it's you missing the point.
This thread is about the Hadron.
Clue is in the title.
It's not about old banger boats, or how much cheaper canoeing is.
It's about a new boat. In the Dinghy Development forum.

Fair enough, threads creep, it's just like a conversation down the pub........
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Originally posted by jeffers



I believe you can get Ovi to do one or get one built with a half and half cockpit (self draining at the back, deeper at the front). Combine that with a thwart helps with the kneeling issues.


Thats half right

Ovi hull (all moulded hulls have to come out of the class owned mould currently with Ovi) that is then fitted out by JJ boats either in wood or epoxy top side.

Floor is the same height as other double floor self drainers, with a foot well cut out around the helming position keeping the rear part of the double floor as a bouyancy tank.

No need for a thwart, although these can be (retro) fitted to the standard double floor boats

The dropped footwell can and has been retro fitted by JJ and others to Epoxy  hulls

There are photos of the dropped footwell on the JJ website:- http://www.jjboats.co.uk/boats/phantom


Edited by Phil_1193 - 20 Feb 17 at 4:07pm
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Originally posted by davidyacht

 
I think the H2 pretty much has its own niche ... the only thing that seems to come close is the Phantom with a cockpit footwell, which I believe to be a very rare beast.

I believe you can get Ovi to do one or get one built with a half and half cockpit (self draining at the back, deeper at the front). Combine that with a thwart helps with the kneeling issues.

Thing like the Laser, D-Zero and Aero are in a different league and people who sail those classes are unlikely to immediately jump in to a H2.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

 
If we're looking for a head-to-head, then the H2 vs the new Ovi OK presents some genuine headaches for someone looking at buying a boat outside the RS/Laser/Solo 'mainstream' right now..... both are looking good, and arguably have very similar appeal.     

Don't see the head to head with the OK, which really is a head to head with the Solo ... which historically were competing for the same slot until the Laser turned up ... there must be some irony there!

I think the H2 pretty much has its own niche ... the only thing that seems to come close is the Phantom with a cockpit footwell, which I believe to be a very rare beast.
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