Hadron H2

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons I think we're missing the point here though, in many classes it's certainly possible to enter a national championship and get a decent (top 10) finish in an old £1500 boat and it's certainly possible to find accommodation for significantly less than £1500. Sure it ain't gonna happen in a Merlin but you pays your money....... And if (like me) you're sailing a £1500 boat you probably aren't at the level where you'd win the Nats even in a brand spanking new boat.

No, I think it's you missing the point.
This thread is about the Hadron.
Clue is in the title.
It's not about old banger boats, or how much cheaper canoeing is.
It's about a new boat. In the Dinghy Development forum.

Originally posted by turnturtle Originally posted by Keith_Callaghan Originally posted by turnturtle At twice the price for significantly less than half the amount of class racing on offer, the Hadron almost certainly has its own value proposition in other directions to the Aero... Where did you get the idea that the H2 is twice the price of an Aero? Price of RS Aero 9 (RS website, today): £6670. Hadron H2: £9465. my mistake, I should have said at "nearly" twice the price for significantly less than half the amount of class racing on offer...

Originally posted by turnturtle Originally posted by Keith_Callaghan Originally posted by turnturtle At twice the price for significantly less than half the amount of class racing on offer, the Hadron almost certainly has its own value proposition in other directions to the Aero... Where did you get the idea that the H2 is twice the price of an Aero? Price of RS Aero 9 (RS website, today): £6670. Hadron H2: £9465. my mistake, I should have said at "nearly" twice the price for significantly less than half the amount of class racing on offer...

You could level the same criticism against the Aero.
It's nearly 50% dearer than a Laser and offers about 10% of the class racing.

The Aero is a lot more similar to the Laser than it is to the Hadron, which is more of a 'sit in' hull than a shallow thing like a Laser etc. So the Hadron is more comparable to the Phantom, Solo, (Finn at a push?)
In those terms, the price does not seem excessive.

In terms of what you get from the boat, I'd be asking 'What's it going to be like to race against the other boats in my club?' I'd not want one to race against RS100's but I suspect there are a lot of classes it could give be a good race against on the water. Whether it scores higher or lower on that front compared to the Aero, will depend on the mix of classes at your club, your size, age, sailing style, fitness.etc. Plus the nature of the wind and water at your club.
And which people will you be pitting yourself against at your club? Sometimes that's important.

Originally posted by turnturtle   If we're looking for a head-to-head, then the H2 vs the new Ovi OK presents some genuine headaches for someone looking at buying a boat outside the RS/Laser/Solo 'mainstream' right now..... both are looking good, and arguably have very similar appeal.

Originally posted by jeffers I believe you can get Ovi to do one or get one built with a half and half cockpit (self draining at the back, deeper at the front). Combine that with a thwart helps with the kneeling issues.

Thats half right

Ovi hull (all moulded hulls have to come out of the class owned mould currently with Ovi) that is then fitted out by JJ boats either in wood or epoxy top side.

Floor is the same height as other double floor self drainers, with a foot well cut out around the helming position keeping the rear part of the double floor as a bouyancy tank.

No need for a thwart, although these can be (retro) fitted to the standard double floor boats

The dropped footwell can and has been retro fitted by JJ and others to Epoxy  hulls

There are photos of the dropped footwell on the JJ website:- http://www.jjboats.co.uk/boats/phantom


Edited by Phil_1193 - 20 Feb 17 at 4:07pm