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    Posted: 19 Feb 17 at 8:57am
Originally posted by Keith_Callaghan

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

A new Aero is the thick end of £3k cheaper than the others you mention and a Laser fully £4k less (ok no real comparison there TBF). New boats are indeed getting very expensive. If I was in the market for a new singlehander the Aero would be very hard to ignore.........

20% of our H2 owners previously owned an Aero.


Showing that statistics on small numbers might not be entirely reliable!
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Originally posted by SimonW99

Well all boats look expensive now. The Hadron for what it is isn't expensive. Compare a new Hadron, New Blaze, New Aero, New Phantom with the required bits and you might be shocked. They have all gone up considerably. Choose the best for you.


As said by Sam the aero is a lot cheaper than the hadron. All the others are existing classes so there's isn't a gamble buying into one. The hadron is brand new and up against those boats. Take a brave person to shell out 10k to race on their own....at the moment. That is what Keith is up against. That said I do hope he does well cos it's a lovely looking boat. I did also say that the hadron is a lot of boat for the money.
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It'll be interesting to see, in a couple of years, how a well used Aero has stood up to a few seasons use and abuse. Having sailed Raceboards (and Div 1 before that) for a lot of years I'm well aware that super light kit usually sacrifices durability (the one exception was Mistral's venerable Equipe 2 which seemed to take anything I could throw at it). I reckon a 5 year old H2 will be a rather better proposition than a similar age Aero.
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At twice the price for significantly less than half the amount of class racing on offer, the Hadron almost certainly has its own value proposition in other directions to the Aero...
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Originally posted by turnturtle

At twice the price for significantly less than half the amount of class racing on offer, the Hadron almost certainly has its own value proposition in other directions to the Aero...

Where did you get the idea that the H2 is twice the price of an Aero?
Price of RS Aero 9 (RS website, today): £6670. Hadron H2: £9465.

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A new Blaze is £10,115 with a carbon rig and North sail (no covers, trailer etc, same as the 'ready to sail' H2). An Ovi Phantom with a North 3DL sail is £10,294..... As Simon sail, most boats are expensive these days. (but with a Merlin £270 shy of £14k.......)
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The Aero is a cracking boat, but also built by an industrial business so seem very consistent in build. Apart from a couple of very early boats, they have been remarkably trouble free. 

As I said all boats have gone up. However look at each price in context and these boats seem reasonably priced relative to each other. 

Surprisingly I went sailing this morning and an H2. turned up. Sailor is a very good ex blaze sailor. Boat looked fantastic on the water and only his 3rd sail, but he won the race on the water. Only my second sail in an old blaze, but whilst very different to the Aero, it was pretty good. Will try an H2 again at some point. The H2 will never sell in big numbers, but having seen it out today I think it will do fine in handicap fleets. 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 17 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by Keith_Callaghan

Originally posted by turnturtle

At twice the price for significantly less than half the amount of class racing on offer, the Hadron almost certainly has its own value proposition in other directions to the Aero...

Where did you get the idea that the H2 is twice the price of an Aero?
Price of RS Aero 9 (RS website, today): £6670. Hadron H2: £9465.


Makes the H2 about the price of a little Hyundai hatchback.
The value is in delivering racing that people enjoy.
To those who are prepared to write a cheque.
P&B Phantom is over £9k
I dare say many people manage to spend more on other sports, try gliding, horses, golf even.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 17 at 6:58pm
I don't know much about other sports TBH but I doubt you'd win Crufts on a 20 year old, £1500 nag  Wink but such boats are capable of winning at the Nats with the right stick wiggler onboard.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 17 at 8:23pm
Yes, right. when are the Spice Nats?
A lot of classes, £1500 won't get you the sails you need to win the nationals.
The last championship I did, it wouldn't cover food, beer and accommodation.

Luckily there are people about who are prepared to spend some cash, or the rest of us wouldn't have anything to buy secondhand.
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