Hadron H2

The D Zero tale exactly highlights my point, no way was it 1015 by any measure, no more than the H2 is 1015, I'd love to go up to oxford tomorrow and give it a go, but why participate in an event that is already stacked against you, what possible reason could make you travel all that way, either in your own boat or in someone elses when the stats are so biased. It is exactly why some organisation or body needs to get a grip of all this.

Handicaps need to be calculated scientifically by machine and maths, not bumbling bent buffers or axe grinding cottage industry spoilers and the Laser should be static for them to pivot about, something needs to anchor the whole charade.

The punk won the forumites open. Fastest boat in the world. End of story

Originally posted by Keith_Callaghan "but to suggest that someone pulls the strings at Sailjuice etc simply to thwart new entrants is just plain misguided and unhelpful". I agree with Cirrus here. Simon Lovesey has bent over backwards to encourage participation of the H2s in the Sailjuice series. And I can understand the disadvantageous handicapping (the H2 was given 1015) - there is minimal quantitative performance data for the H2 yet, and all competitors would understandably be peeved off if such a boat won on a 'dodgy' handicap. Remember 'Punk'?

Originally posted by guesswho Gentlemen, I started this to introduce the Hadron dinghy in both its forms, H1 and H2 . For some reason the subject matter keeps drifting way off topic. Please desist. The Hadron is a cracking dinghy, it is different and does need looking at with an open mind. The internal fit out of the hull is entirely up to the owner, Simon Hipkin will fit it out as you wish. The dinghy is still in its relatively early stages and is not being pushed as some of the other designs are, certainly not as the ones with a huge budget. The PY number will only settle if more are raced so thats going to take time. The only way to really find out if this dinghy is for you is to sail it. Keith and Simon have two demonstrators and are willing to let folk sail them. Age and size are immaterial the rig is multi adjustable and with a bit of thought can be depowered to suit most. I am biased I own one. Give it a try and open your minds.

Gentlemen, I started this to introduce the Hadron dinghy in both its forms, H1 and H2 . For some reason the subject matter keeps drifting way off topic. Please desist. The Hadron is a cracking dinghy, it is different and does need looking at with an open mind. The internal fit out of the hull is entirely up to the owner, Simon Hipkin will fit it out as you wish. The dinghy is still in its relatively early stages and is not being pushed as some of the other designs are, certainly not as the ones with a huge budget. The PY number will only settle if more are raced so thats going to take time. The only way to really find out if this dinghy is for you is to sail it. Keith and Simon have two demonstrators and are willing to let folk sail them. Age and size are immaterial the rig is multi adjustable and with a bit of thought can be depowered to suit most. I am biased I own one. Give it a try and open your minds.