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    Posted: 11 Dec 16 at 8:55am
Originally posted by Do Different

I can't see what the beef is, it is two days, right? £10 per head per day and nine quid for a meal AND some of the proceeds go a respected sailing charity. 



If you're were going to the dinner then of course there would be no beef whatsoever as you'll pay that anyway and on the face of it isn't terrible value. If you want it.

 But - as RSC - you have to consider that pre Sailjuice there used to be 200 odd boats at this event so thats potentially around 300 people plus hangers on. I think they used to get 150ish for the dinner which must nearly have filled the club and can they cope with many more?

Notwithstanding that they get about 90 boats worth of people go to the dinner. By including the dinner in the entry they've just made 110 boats think very carefully before they travel as they aren't going to use a third of the fee that they pay, and they'll still be paying for breakfast, lunch, tea, drinks etc etc.

They've made it look as if they are milking every penny they can out of competitors (Most inland clubs seem to charge around £30 entry for two days, with 200 odd boats they'd still make a killing and still be able to donate £5 per boat to JMST). I appreciate that the club need to earn money and that the charity does a lot for the sport - but what they've done will potentially cripple their revenue from this event - hopefully not but i wont be going and nor will the guys I drink with at the club. All people who've been a number of times before and like the sailing at Rutland - so if we are thinking like this what chance do they have? 

 
Originally posted by davidyacht

It's their event, can do what they like with it ... less than the price of a ratchet block.

Without a doubt - we will find out if people vote with their trailers in a few weeks.


Edited by Paramedic - 11 Dec 16 at 9:06am
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If the food is passable, it doesn't seem too bad.
But bangers and mash? can be a bit variable, particularly in bulk.
There can always be issues catering for people with odd dietary requirements of course and if their resoures are stretched by the size of the event it might not be great if you are on a dairy free diet or something.
Then there are always a few people who enter racing events to race, and have other commitments in the evening. Locals perhaps?
Also people who sail with younger kids might not be best suited by this.
And what if your accommodation is a drive away? I'd normally eat later and have a glass or two of wine with my dinner.

As a one-off event, with all the info available, people can see what's on offer and make up their own minds. Maybe that will work well, all the entrants will have the same idea of what makes a good event?

When events are part of a series and the included food is sprung on you at the last minute, it's not so good.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Dec 16 at 2:48pm
Adult tickets at the local cinema are 9.95 each
Local Theatre tickets are 13.00 per adult for Jane Eyre
A pint of beer is £4.00 + down south. So a night out with the lads is god knows how much.
Georgie Fame at the local venue is £23.00 each (Jools Holland £40.00)

I suppose travelling to an open might whack the cost up a bit.......always useful to have a comparison with other forms of leisure.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Dec 16 at 5:52pm
Chichester YC is 2 races for a tenner.

Seriously though, how many of us spend more on entry fees than insurance, accommodation,  depreciation, fuel, sails, club membership, clothing...?

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Its all very well all this bleating, but its clear that very few people do all the winter events as a series. Instead the vast majority just do one or two, and presumably they make their choices by location and the individual character of the event.

The Bloody Mary is and always has been a massive everyone in pursuit round a complex course, often featuring spectacular mark pileups.

The Grafham Grand Prix is a much more conventional series featuring separate courses.

And one of the different things about the Tiger Trophy is and always has been the Saturday evening black tie meal with various charity aspects attached, and I think usually features a younger entry than most of the others - at least when I've been there.

Even though black tie events are to say the very least of it not my thing (never dressed up like that in my life and never intend to) I think its a very good thing that the events do maintain their individual character, and if the club thinks that bundling in the meal will help maintain the different character of the event then all power to them. The last thing we need is for every event to be pretty much the same. How boring would that be?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Dec 16 at 9:25am
A lot of open minded sense talked there JimC.
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People will vote with their feet, or so to speak. Despite the slightly eye watering (to me) entry fees at Rutland, I have seen a few Open events (single handed) being in the £40 range. They are inclined to charge right up to the point that enough people stop coming. It's a bit like football tickets prices, there seem constant displeasure the prices of tickets for some of the top Premiership team, however they are still selling out week in week out.

What were entry fee like back in the 60's 70's in comparison to the cost of boat/insurance etc etc
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Dec 16 at 10:45am
I only hear anecdotes but I get the impression the cost mentioned for a two person boat at the Rutland TT would look like a cheap weekend compared to taking two kids to some Optimist events.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Dec 16 at 10:46am
I can't for the life of me remember the cost of entry fees back in the day, but they were never considered excessive and I'm sure we would all have probably spent more at the bar, then again lots of windsurfing events back then were sponsored so that helped keep the costs down, they could even have been foc but then you'd never have known how many to cater for and I suspect that is the case if you're putting on a black tie dinner.

I must say the thing I'm most surprised about reading on this thread somebody I always regarded as establishment and maybe even a bit stuffy in JimC, it comes as a total shock he's never dressed for dinner, I don't think I've ever been to a dinner dance and not black tied up, there might have been the occasional board shorts below, but theyve pretty much always been black tie, even the H&SSC annual do's and to include that in the entry fee for 58 quid doesn't actually seem that unreasonable to me, then again I don't sail a GP14.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Dec 16 at 11:02am
Green fees for visitors at our local golf course £ 50/person ... no meal included
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