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Originally posted by KazRob

It is always funny to see people complain that Phwelli, Largs or other places in the frozen north are too far away to go to whereas for sailors from t'north the idea of driving for 6hrs+ to get to an event is an everyday occurrence. They may be far away but at least you'll be moving instead of sitting in traffic jams 😀

I am a southerner, but one of my all time favourite venues was Tynemouth.  

If the success of a championship venue is driven by turnout, which imo it is, it baffles me why Classes go to venues that are unlikely to succeed on this KPI.

Personally I cannot see the appeal of Pwlhelli when there is such a great club with a great view 5 miles to the west that is not located in the middle of an industrial estate.
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Originally posted by davidyacht

 

If the success of a championship venue is driven by turnout, which imo it is, it baffles me why Classes go to venues that are unlikely to succeed on this KPI.

politics - throw the whinging northern b**tards and tight arse Scots a bone every few years, in turn remember to book the same week somewhere sunny with the Mrs and stock up browny points- knowing full well 'there's always next year' when it will return to somewhere far more salubrious down south.    LOL Wink


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Originally posted by davidyacht

If the success of a championship venue is driven by turnout, which imo it is, it baffles me why Classes go to venues that are unlikely to succeed on this KPI.


Well, it depends whether you see your class as a platform for a cosy coterie of Southerners, or genuinely national/international. If your class is genuinely national/international, and you as an association believe your duty is to support all your members, not just those in easy reach of Weymouth and Garda, then you should rotate championship venues so everyone gets a reasonably local event from time to time. Sure it means attendances will fluctuate, but the intelligent observer will understand that.

Isn't the lesson of this year that one shouldn't fail to serve people just because they aren't in the fashionable elite?

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Isn't the lesson of this year that one shouldn't fail to serve people just because they aren't in the fashionable elite?

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It is difficult to see how 2 venues that are in the midlands can be part of a true northern circuit (IMO).

Also interesting that they are choosing to allow rig swapping between events and scoring them on PY. This must mean the 'sailable weight' of the boat will drop and means you need at least 3 of the 3 rigs to be competitive.

Not really true class racing IMO.
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Originally posted by jeffers

Not really true class racing IMO.

Changing sail area to suit the conditions has been part of sailboat racing for a very long time. In many ways our current insistence on hoisting the same rag in 3 knots and 30 is bizarre in the extreme.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by jeffers

Not really true class racing IMO.

Changing sail area to suit the conditions has been part of sailboat racing for a very long time. In many ways our current insistence on hoisting the same rag in 3 knots and 30 is bizarre in the extreme.

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Originally posted by GML

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by jeffers

Not really true class racing IMO.

Changing sail area to suit the conditions has been part of sailboat racing for a very long time. In many ways our current insistence on hoisting the same rag in 3 knots and 30 is bizarre in the extreme.

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yep, I can quite imagine the response when asked to peel to the Number 2 Genoa, I'd asked the owner if our own class rules permitted it first, and secondly, wouldn't it be a little unfair on the poor chap behind us who could only afford one new sail this season....  LOL
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