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    Posted: 22 Sep 16 at 10:26am
Where exactly is this thread heading now ? ... a few chips off life's general shoulders on show maybe ...  We've all heard the occasional taxi driver start with ...  'And another thing....'  while proceeding  way 'off piste' as well ....  Wink
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Originally posted by Bootscooter

Wow - so much wrong in just one post. Mess bars aren't subsidised, they just don't rip off punters with crazy inflated prices.

because they don't have rents to pay, or business rates like a regular pub or bar and I'm guessing here, but I reckon the full staffing costs don't come out of the bar profit either.... therefore they are subsidised indirectly by their institutionalised nature...  same as Uni bars.    


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Can I do my 'the important thing is that everyone fights about it on the internet' line now?
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Wow - so much wrong in just one post. Mess bars aren't subsidised, they just don't rip off punters with crazy inflated prices.
For ceremonial crap read ethos and heritage.... some of the things that help our military be so effective.

Not sure what direct input MOD has in to the Invictus games, but it's not a bad idea.
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Posts: 2538 		Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 16 at 2:25pm
Maybe the MOD could spend some money on the Invictus Games and get sailing in there instead.... it seems to waste a fair chunk on subsidised bars and bullsh*t ceremonial crap for the officer classes.  
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Posts: 590 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Cirrus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 16 at 3:55pm
Perhaps it would be appropriate if 'World Sailing' now set up its own 'para' sailing championships as the pinacle as a positive outcome of the rejection for 2020+ (or do they already and we have all 'missed it'... well it does need more promotion !) ... Run it say every 4 years and hopefully with a tad more proactive promotion (ie properly invest in it)..   The cynical amongst us might think they will gently let things drop as WF follow those income streams like so many wanabe quango's do in place of the original ideals behind their creation .... and if they do will our own RYA  raise more than a token protest.

If they can't then what real long term hope for sailing in the Olympics either ....
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Cannot imagine any paralympic funding will stay in sailing if sailing's no longer a paralympic sport.

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If they can direct just a bit of it at grass roots special needs/disabled sailing, then they would be doing far more for people who desperately need challenge, self respect and meaning in their lives than they currently are.
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An interesting observation that with Rio finally 'done and dusted' there has been little comment made on the results from the three para-lympic classes. The one official comment that was made  - "Their success means that the British Sailing Team has achieved its pre-Rio target of two medals." is as interesting for what it doesn't say as what it does. Hmmm..two bronze medals - job done? More like a case that Team GBR had an arse kicking from the Australian contingent that came close to a clean sweep, finally settling for two Gold and a Silver.

Word is that the performance of 'Team GBR' will now be the topic of some fairly far reaching discussions, with a potential funding cut being just one of the options that are on the table.

The bigger question? Would the £5.4m cut in funding stay in the sport, in one form or another, or be directed elsewhere?

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 "You say that but I live just round the corner from the gym where 1 Louis Smith (and many others from Team GB) train. They have been full with waiting lists for years now as a direct result of the continued success of GB/England Gymnasts. They also have a really active baby/toddler/child sessions. Catch 'em young and keep them interested seems to work well."

Excellent; you'll have to let me off joining a gymnastics club though, I'm claiming an age exemption # 1956er. Big smile  
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