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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Probably has the same sort of lifespan as any dinghy that comes into your ownership
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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mate, I'm a Laser sailor on a break due to lack of time right now .... no point fighting it, I've owned Lasers or over a third of my life and they are the standard default when emperors new clothes actually become stark bollock naked shandycap racing and all its vagaries.
- Lasers are here to stay - Lasers are sailed almost universally at any club near me - Lasers are sailed from Novices to Olympians the world over - Lasers don't lose silly money - talking hundreds, not thousands per season at worst - Lasers offer decent fleet racing, and that really is the only purpose of dinghy ownership when there are better options for casual watersports. I would have got another one this summer, but I've only made it across to the club on a Wednesday night twice this year due to work. Next year should be different.... perhaps a miracle will happen and there'll be a fleet of D-Zeros or Aeros there next May (honestly couldn't give a toss which of those two- they're both better than a Laser). Or maybe some OKs. I like OKs.... or Finns. Finns would be good now they're going to crash in value after being dumped from the Olympics. Edited by turnturtle - 30 Aug 16 at 12:24pm |
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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There's room in sailing for things other than Lasers. It's just that it seems like only last week we were saying how great the Rs100 and D-one were.What's the next niche in the market to get RS's attention?
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Steve (Cogito C Class Cat) Clark in the US is working on something very radical. Maybe if it comes off RS will consider licensing it!
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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the Aero is proving to be very well received - I would have thought that when you get yourself a decent cash cow, it's best to keep milking it rather than go to market for another round of bull....
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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No point competing with yourself. Only gap I can see in the market is a twin trapeze with conventional kite. |
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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From what I have heard the development is not Steve's but his son's. While the concept looks good, I'm not convinced the niche is worth the effort, much as I don't see the business case for WASP vs just buying an older moth.
I'm probably wrong but, I think the big money is in mainstream products, that are easy to step into for virtual beginners, as well as providing excellent tactical sailing for experts. It might not be sexy, but it's where the volume is. Edited by craiggo - 30 Aug 16 at 1:47pm |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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!! As gaps in the market go that one should be worth one sale every twenty years or so... I think there's possibly a place for a truly modern mature sailor's singlehander with really good ergonomics. Its a difficult proposition because it involves balancing compromises between a lot of factors that at first sight look very much at odds. I think it would probably want: self draining, no kneeling down, board more or less level with water when capsized slow rate of roll, good roll tacking, reasonable static stability, light weight good weight carrying, little gain from extreme hiking, good comfort sitting out performance probably between Aero 9 and Laser I think I'm going to buy a pack of Dow Floormate and make up some temporary internal structures for my Vintage Moth to try out some ideas. Edited by JimC - 30 Aug 16 at 2:07pm |
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hum3 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 23 Jun 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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The H2 doesn't fit the bill?
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PaulPoshW ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Jun 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 32 |
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Sounds a little like the Hadron H2, perhaps it just needs a marketing machine behind it.
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