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    Posted: 26 Aug 16 at 9:31am
Being in with the olympic mob is obviously good for that gym. But does it do anything for gyms generally or simply move custom towards the favoured ones?
It will mostly be forgotten as soon as the football season starts.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 16 at 9:45am
Maybe there should be a special "poor sportsperson's" tax put onto footballers wages? That would easily pay for an Olympic cycle.
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Personally I think one of the problems of getting people into sports and keeping them there, both  generally, and sailing in particular is managing expectations. People enter sports expecting great things, but if those expectations are set too high, particularly after watching elite athletes, then all that can be expected is failure and the individuals will leave the sport with a bad taste.
Generally I see this as the reason why of the vast number of kids who race the junior classes only a small percentage will stay in the sport for life, they come to realise, or are told, that they wont be taken by the next squad and so they quit sailing, in those circumstances it takes a strong person to accept their limitations and carry on.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 16 at 1:10pm
Taking windsurfing as an example, and my opinions are just that and a few years old now (but as far as I can tell nothing has changed).

I used to race a Raceboard 7.5 on the NW regional circuit (where we still race a 7.5m class) and the odd national event, reasonably successfully. For a short while we managed to persuade the local T15 reps to combine their events with our UKBSA/UKWA Raceboard events with the older kids racing the same course as the adults. They stopped doing this 'cos they said the kids were 'intimidated' by the sight of us 'big kids'! Now the kids don't realise that there is windsurf racing after the age of 15....... The RYA doesn't seem interested in promoting Raceboards and appears to abandon the over 15s unless they have 'Olympic potential' and there are virtually non entering Raceboard events. Dinghy sailors have more chance as most clubs have a racing culture where windsurfing clubs don't (and don't get me started on how Formula W destroyed windsurf racing at club level 'cos they just don't work on small inland ponds.....)


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 16 at 6:24pm
 "You say that but I live just round the corner from the gym where 1 Louis Smith (and many others from Team GB) train. They have been full with waiting lists for years now as a direct result of the continued success of GB/England Gymnasts. They also have a really active baby/toddler/child sessions. Catch 'em young and keep them interested seems to work well."

Excellent; you'll have to let me off joining a gymnastics club though, I'm claiming an age exemption # 1956er. Big smile  


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An interesting observation that with Rio finally 'done and dusted' there has been little comment made on the results from the three para-lympic classes. The one official comment that was made  - "Their success means that the British Sailing Team has achieved its pre-Rio target of two medals." is as interesting for what it doesn't say as what it does. Hmmm..two bronze medals - job done? More like a case that Team GBR had an arse kicking from the Australian contingent that came close to a clean sweep, finally settling for two Gold and a Silver.

Word is that the performance of 'Team GBR' will now be the topic of some fairly far reaching discussions, with a potential funding cut being just one of the options that are on the table.

The bigger question? Would the £5.4m cut in funding stay in the sport, in one form or another, or be directed elsewhere?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 16 at 2:41pm
If they can direct just a bit of it at grass roots special needs/disabled sailing, then they would be doing far more for people who desperately need challenge, self respect and meaning in their lives than they currently are.
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Cannot imagine any paralympic funding will stay in sailing if sailing's no longer a paralympic sport.

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Perhaps it would be appropriate if 'World Sailing' now set up its own 'para' sailing championships as the pinacle as a positive outcome of the rejection for 2020+ (or do they already and we have all 'missed it'... well it does need more promotion !) ... Run it say every 4 years and hopefully with a tad more proactive promotion (ie properly invest in it)..   The cynical amongst us might think they will gently let things drop as WF follow those income streams like so many wanabe quango's do in place of the original ideals behind their creation .... and if they do will our own RYA  raise more than a token protest.

If they can't then what real long term hope for sailing in the Olympics either ....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 16 at 2:25pm
Maybe the MOD could spend some money on the Invictus Games and get sailing in there instead.... it seems to waste a fair chunk on subsidised bars and bullsh*t ceremonial crap for the officer classes.  
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