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GML 
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 Topic: 2017 RulesPosted: 26 Sep 16 at 4:58pm |
Has now been published by World Sailing: |
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Brass
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Posted: 11 Jul 16 at 11:59pm |
Probably. Here's the submission for the rule change. The exact wording of the amendment was changed by the RRC before going to Council. |
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flaming
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Posted: 11 Jul 16 at 6:31pm |
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Does the new 19.1b provide a definative answer to this problem now then?
New 19.1.b Rule 19 applies between two boats at an obstruction except (b ) when rule 18 applies between the boats and the obstruction is another boat overlapped with each of them.
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11141&title=which-takes-precedence-18-or-19 |
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JimC
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Posted: 07 Jul 16 at 1:50pm |
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I imagine its deliberately broad because its aimed at the professional teams who have a history of doing everything they can to evade a rule if they find it awkward.
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Quagers
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Posted: 07 Jul 16 at 1:38pm |
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Does anyone thing that the definition of support person, if read literally, it way way too broad. It could apply to almost anyone in the world.
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Presuming Ed
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Posted: 06 Jul 16 at 11:36pm |
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That one was with Boat Scenario
http://boats.sourceforge.net How to use it. There's also tss -tactical sailing solutions. http://tss.peronneau.net
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ClubRacer
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Posted: 06 Jul 16 at 11:02pm |
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Ed, I've seen similar diagrams used before, is there a program you're using to do them?
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Presuming Ed
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Posted: 06 Jul 16 at 10:04am |
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One other thing, as was pointed out on the other place. New appendices S and T. Standard sailing instructions and arbitration.
And no index.
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Presuming Ed
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Posted: 06 Jul 16 at 9:52am |
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But we already have different rules at windward and leeward marks. If you just stick to the mantra "Don't approach a ww mark from top left. Tack outside the zone" = no worries.
Personally, I think it's an improvement for team racing. Means that this is now legal for yellow.
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Quagers
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Posted: 05 Jul 16 at 11:37pm |
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Honestly I think this just complicates matters, now we have different rules applying depending on which way you are going round the mark? People barely know the rules as it is.
It also changes the game in team racing a bit, I've certainly used this rule at starboard hand mark 1's before.
Edited by Quagers - 05 Jul 16 at 11:38pm |
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