Laser Replica Sails

Originally posted by JimC Originally posted by RS400atC Only those who choose the join the CA are subject to the class rules. Not True. The definition of Rules includes the class rules, and RRS 78.1 requires that a boat is maintained to comply with her class rules.

The 'class' in this context being the class for the start as per NoR, i.e. Laser Class for the 'lympics, PY class for the PSc frostbite.
Not the design or model.

To have most boats within their OD or other CA class rules, the helm must be a member of the CA.
Which must apply exactly the same for a 'Laser Class' race at my local town regatta as the rules about sailmaker or for say an RS800 where you put the racks and ballast.

Some PY race SI's and NoR's have wording about any digression from class rules invalidating the normal PY, notifying the race team etc.

There are of course plenty of boats racing under PY where the CA is pretty much defunct or never existed. So there are no class rules.
The rules are the same as in yachts, you can race your Sigma 33 under IRC whlst it's outside Sigma 33 class rules, so long as you abide by IRC rules while racing in an IRC class.

Unlike IRC, there are no national class rules attached to being in a PY class AFAIK?

Originally posted by RS400atC The 'class' in this context being the class for the start as per NoR, i.e. Laser Class for the 'lympics,

Do you have any evidence at all for this highly dubious assertion?

Agreed Rupert, but that's rather different. "This is no longer a Laser and not entered as such" is a very different thing to saying "As its a handicap race class rules don't apply".

Originally posted by turnturtle what I'm a little surprised at is that no one has asked 'why?'.... 'why are Rooster stopping replica sails?' Surely they're a good piece of revenue, even if the competition has squeezed them a bit?   Maybe it's a bit of a leap, but as forum conjecture goes, could it be that Rooster are aligning themselves up for a more official role within the authorised parts supply chain in due course?  I couldn't think of a better placed firm to take forward the Laser into he 21st century than Rooster- their customer service is exceptional and their product ranges priced well without compromising on quality.   There's more to this decision ... i can smell it :-)

Originally posted by GML   But in the latter case, if on the entry form the class was listed as "Laser hull with a replica sail" then I see no need for that boat to comply with the Laser class rules - which may of course create something of a problem for the OA/RC since they will have to decide how to handicap such a boat, but most seem to manage without too much difficulty.