Laser Replica Sails

Originally posted by JimC Originally posted by RS400atC Only those who choose the join the CA are subject to the class rules. Not True. The definition of Rules includes the class rules, and RRS 78.1 requires that a boat is maintained to comply with her class rules.

The 'class' in this context being the class for the start as per NoR, i.e. Laser Class for the 'lympics, PY class for the PSc frostbite.
Not the design or model.

To have most boats within their OD or other CA class rules, the helm must be a member of the CA.
Which must apply exactly the same for a 'Laser Class' race at my local town regatta as the rules about sailmaker or for say an RS800 where you put the racks and ballast.

Some PY race SI's and NoR's have wording about any digression from class rules invalidating the normal PY, notifying the race team etc.

There are of course plenty of boats racing under PY where the CA is pretty much defunct or never existed. So there are no class rules.
The rules are the same as in yachts, you can race your Sigma 33 under IRC whlst it's outside Sigma 33 class rules, so long as you abide by IRC rules while racing in an IRC class.

Unlike IRC, there are no national class rules attached to being in a PY class AFAIK?

Originally posted by RS400atC Only those who choose the join the CA are subject to the class rules.

Not True.
The definition of Rules includes the class rules, and RRS 78.1 requires that a boat is maintained to comply with her class rules.

Edited by JimC - 07 May 16 at 3:52pm

Originally posted by Rupert Laser inc appear to have lost authority with the majority of Laser owners. So Laser owners don't see the need to stick by Laser Inc shouts from on high.

I have no time at all for Pushchairs incorporated and not much for the ILCA. But that's not what its about, is it.

Competitors in the sport of sailing are governed by a body of rules that they are expected to follow and enforce. A fundamental principle of sportsmanship is that when competitors break a rule they will promptly take a penalty, which may be to retire.

Edited by JimC - 07 May 16 at 12:39pm

Originally posted by GML But Laser Inc. only gets to decide the rules that apply at events where it is the Organising Authority. At an ordinary club event it is up to the club to decide what rules it wants to apply.

Not so. A club has no right to change class rules without permission from the Ca. It can hold a multi class event for lasers and not lasers, and say they all start together, but it can not say that certain class rules do not apply.

Originally posted by realnutter But Squash Inc. says that's ok....  Laser Inc. doesn't...