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    Posted: 25 Mar 16 at 5:15pm
Indeed, one I'm reliably informed is ill-informed.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 16 at 5:45pm
How dare you have an opinion, TT!

My opinion is that you are right about the Aero, which has a far broader base than "race boat", but that a boat certainly doesn't have to be cutting edge to be a race boat. The Solo is a fine example. People buy them because there are other Solos to race against, not really as a play around at the beach boat, but the performance makes the Aero seem very sprightly indeed.
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Much of this current stuff is simply a continuation of the petty minded, unimaginative, dreary and negative sniping that some see as ‘discussion’ or ‘banter’.  It is neither.  It comes across from some quarters as getting a tad desperate and those perpetuating it p*** poor ambassadors for their own class. The logic, if there is any at all to be found, must to be that somehow a class can somehow be ‘promoted’ by knocking what might be seen as a rival.  It is happening here and it happens on other forums like SA …..

Get over it guys … This sort of stuff, if anything, associates your own preferred ride with blatant negativity.  I’d bet a pound to a penny it has already cost the class(es) you yourself prefer and promote more than a few percentage points in terms of numbers.  It actually works against your objectives – can’t you see that ?   It is NOT an association or a tactic many would actively seek   

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 16 at 6:57pm
I dare say citrus or whatever's ramblings have also cost him a few percent of boat sales, which must be, what, a few percent of one icon?

Nothing wrong with banter :-)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 16 at 7:25pm
Get over yourself Mike, have a glass of wine and do whatever it is you do to chill the f**k out... As I said, 'Beach Boat' is hardly a pejorative term, if it were perceived by Pete as such, then I will take note for future postings. I really like the Aero, wish there were a fleet near me, I'd buy one no question. Short boats and boards are normally more fun than their gargantuan cousins imho! The world has moved on from the dross Topper put out in the 90s!

A quick look at the PY return numbers verses numbers claimed sold, is a clear indication that the Aero is capturing a far broader set of imaginations than simply an all-out race boat does.

But then I guess it serves your commercial agenda to kill of discussions on successfully launched classes, then we can get back to discussing the non-event that the icon was...

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I designed and intended the punk and zero as beach boats, like a modern sunfish, but it seems everyone is just racing them!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 16 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by Daniel Holman

I designed and intended the punk and zero as beach boats, like a modern sunfish, but it seems everyone is just racing them!


Indeed - one minor criticism, if I may without offending you, is that a little more fun time footage this summer wouldn't go a miss... The Aero got that vibe going well on their early video releases. No reason both don't compliment each other offering a lighter hearted alternative to sailing... Shame they don't 'get together' at the National watersports festival!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 16 at 7:48pm
Totally agree its been on my list for some time. Just whenever I try to recruit the teenage girls stuff goes bad.
Right this is probs a "thread hijack!" laters
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cirrus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 16 at 8:33pm
I am only saying exactly what a lot of people are already thinking and many have been saying for many months.  The constant sniping and angling by a few, and they are just a few,  for any negative angle on anything they percieve as a rival does little to serve their own cause....

It is damaging to 'their' preferred boat.  Little doubt about it.  Are they truly that naive to think anything else or can they simply not help themselves ?   The last thing any builder or class needs is 'help' of this sort - and most would very sensibly disown and discourage it.  Guys have you ever wondered why, for example,  the RS and other supporters barely respond in kind ?  IT DOES NOT WORK (and it much more likely damages 'your' class development and future both sides of the water) ! LOL

Now TT (et al) ... Open a bottle of decent wine yourself ....  chill ... OK chill some more ... maybe a bit more still ... and reflect.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 16 at 8:39pm
Maybe change the recruiting method from dropping your trousers, Dan?

I can see the Zero as a beach boat, with a Dacron, lateen sail.

Mind, I've yet to jump in one, so should probably save the jokes until I can speak crap from a position of authority.
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