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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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I dare say citrus or whatever's ramblings have also cost him a few percent of boat sales, which must be, what, a few percent of one icon?
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Much of this current stuff is simply a continuation
of the petty minded, unimaginative, dreary and negative sniping that some see
as ‘discussion’ or ‘banter’. It is neither. It comes across from some quarters as getting
a tad desperate and those perpetuating it p*** poor ambassadors for their own
class. The logic, if there is any at all to be found, must to be that somehow a
class can somehow be ‘promoted’ by knocking what might be seen as a rival. It is happening here and it happens on other
forums like SA ….. Get over it guys … This sort of stuff, if anything, associates your own preferred ride with blatant negativity. I’d bet a pound to a penny it has already cost the class(es) you yourself prefer and promote more than a few percentage points in terms of numbers. It actually works against your objectives – can’t you see that ? It is NOT an association or a tactic many would actively seek … |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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How dare you have an opinion, TT!
My opinion is that you are right about the Aero, which has a far broader base than "race boat", but that a boat certainly doesn't have to be cutting edge to be a race boat. The Solo is a fine example. People buy them because there are other Solos to race against, not really as a play around at the beach boat, but the performance makes the Aero seem very sprightly indeed. |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Indeed, one I'm reliably informed is ill-informed.
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ventus ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 10 Jul 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 43 |
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It's a opinion.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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It's not a semantic argument, if it were I would clearly not 'win'... But some boats scream race boat, race programme, cutting edge performance etc the current epitome being A class cats, moths and the musto skiff (imho). It's the same way some bikes do over a drop handle club hack, but the Aero certainly doesn't do that, not with its Dacron rag and a mediocre performance. It's a beach boat, that's no bad thing.
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ventus ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 10 Jul 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 43 |
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Does this mean solos, streaker, comets, lightnings are not race boats.
Are we talking about the design thinking, or whether a boat is high performance? If we are talking design, I think we can say a laser is a beach boat following the tradition of the sunfish and the like. In my opinion the boats I have mentioned are dedicated race boats because that was the main reason for them being designed in the first place. |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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One which pretty much requires rescue cover for starters...
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Presuming Ed ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 641 |
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Please define "dedicated race boat".
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Ill informed, 'fraid not... In the context of dedicated race boats- musto skiffs, moths, 700s etc... It's definitely a beach boat, not a race boat. I wouldn't assume that's meant pejoratively ... Quite the contrary FWIW
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