The predictability of PYAG

Very few Icon owners ever comment here - quite sensibly and keep well away from the Y&Y forum in particular.  However the boat is often cited here, unsolicited, by other forumites for reasons best known to them ... some of whom then get all far too excited when the odd iconist responds or puts a counter view.

Get a life  !   It has been a long windy winter and the world has not changed that much.  Why not take up a proper pastime this spring, make that resolution, and simply 'TRY ONE' !   Will not kill you and might just inform your opinions with a bit more in the way of substance or even useful anecdote.  We don't really care if you do or not but you never know you might even like it  and get to understand a bit more about the boat.   All the rest is simply 'keyboard hero' stuff really.  Playground silliness ‘on a forum’.

We don't knock your favorite 'ride' or keep on bringing it up every now and then… and just who did bring up Icon THIS time ? 

Bottom line is many of the EN numbers are tenuous at best being based on a very limited, possibly flawed appreciation of statistical sampling theory.  To 'big up' the PN system for much of the time as giving us near certain fact is to institutionalise its very failings and to lend it credibility way beyond reasonable justification.  It is very very far from a rigorous system so for goodness sake – let us just accept it.

Now - in the generous spirit of this forum (and leaving Icon out of it for now ) What is the most inappropriate PN change this year - er that is in your opinion at least  ?

Edited by Cirrus - 06 Mar 16 at 11:31pm

Love to ignore it's handicap, but it is always brought up by the end of workers as an example of how the PYAG is corrupt, so it is difficult to say nothing. Your last post did it again.

To your point, the handicap I think is furthest out is the British Moth, as it has become self forfilling. The lower the handicap goes, the less the boat is sailed on open water, and the river results dominate more. Not sure how the stats can compare this, except for the PYAG to issue warnings about where the returns have come from in their bit about altering numbers.

The 300 came down 7 points this year (to 979) - very nearly the largest move down of any class - must be all the development going on in the class!! Or we are all just becoming better sailors year on year. Cannot blame the make up of the PYAG though as there's a 300 owner in there.

Edited by Steve411 - 07 Mar 16 at 9:47am

Originally posted by Steve411 The 300 came down 7 points this year (to 979) - very nearly the largest move down of any class - must be all the development going on in the class!! Or we are all just becoming better sailors year on year. Cannot blame the make up of the PYAG though as there's a 300 owner in there.

Musto is down another 3 - that' 13 points (i think) since i started sailing it 3 years ago, i wouldn't like to make sweeping generalisations, but i take full responsibility