New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Spinnaker coatings
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Spinnaker coatings
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
  Share Topic Share Topic  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
gbrspratt View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king


Joined: 26 Sep 11
Location: Felixstowe
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 170 		Post Options Post Options   Quote gbrspratt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Spinnaker coatings
    Posted: 24 Feb 16 at 10:44am
I've heard that in some classes (one design?) Spinnaker coatings could be illegal? As it's not stated in the rules it can't be done? Taking a sail out of one design? I guess this goes for all sails, not just kites.
Back to Top
jeffers View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 29 Mar 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3048 		Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 16 at 10:54am
If written in to the class rules that coating 'x' may not be applied then sure it is possible.

It becomes a 'measurement' issue IMO as the sails must have been measured and approved. I am guessing part of the measurement process would be a declaration that coating 'x' has not been applied.
Paul
----------------------
D-Zero GBR 74
Back to Top
gbrspratt View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king


Joined: 26 Sep 11
Location: Felixstowe
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 170 		Post Options Post Options   Quote gbrspratt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 16 at 11:00am
So if a laser had its main coated, would that still be class legal?
Back to Top
jeffers View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 29 Mar 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3048 		Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 16 at 11:13am
Originally posted by gbrspratt

So if a laser had its main coated, would that still be class legal?

No because the Laser has the Fundamental Rule that covers this:

Fundamental Rule

The Laser shall be raced in accordance with these Rules, with only the hull, equipment, fittings, spars, sail and battens manufactured by an International Sailing Federation (ISAF) and International Laser Class Association (ILCA) approved builder in strict adherence to the Laser design specification (known as the Construction Manual) which is registered with ISAF.
No addition or alteration may be made to the hull form, construction, equipment, type of equipment, placing of equipment, fittings, type of fittings, placing of fittings, spars, sail and battens as supplied by the builder except when such an alteration or change is specifically authorised by Parts 2 or 3 of these Rules.
Paul
----------------------
D-Zero GBR 74
Back to Top
PhilHigh View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 17 Jan 09
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8 		Post Options Post Options   Quote PhilHigh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 16 at 3:51pm
You could probably class spinnaker coating as coming under maintenance.  A quick look at the laser rules suggests coating the main could be fine.

Rule 26 a: Repairs and preventative maintenance to the sail, hull, deck, centreboard, rudder, mast, boom or any fittings and fixings may be carried out without violation of these Rules provided such repairs are made in such a way that the essential shape, characteristics or function of the original are not affected

Rule 26 f: The use of lubricants is unrestricted except that they shall not be used on the hull (below the gunwales)
Back to Top
jeffers View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 29 Mar 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3048 		Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 16 at 4:04pm
You would fall over on this though:


Rule 26 a: Repairs and preventative maintenance to the sail, hull, deck, centreboard, rudder, mast, boom or any fittings and fixings may be carried out without violation of these Rules provided such repairs are made in such a way that the essential shape, characteristics or function of the original are not affected

As the coating may alter the characteristics over what it would have been originally. 


Edited by jeffers - 24 Feb 16 at 4:05pm
Paul
----------------------
D-Zero GBR 74
Back to Top
Rupert View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 11 Aug 04
Location: Whitefriars sc
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8956 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 16 at 5:50pm
More likely the coating will bring a sail back to nearer what the original characteristics were.
Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 16 at 11:16pm
It's your boat, you paid for it, and if you want to coat your sails with something just go for it.  If you want to give your kite a bit more life, it's your kite.  
Back to Top
JimC View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 17 May 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6661 		Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 16 at 9:59am
Originally posted by Doug.H

It's your boat, you paid for it, and if you want to coat your sails with something just go for it.  If you want to give your kite a bit more life, it's your kite.  


But if you race with other people under the RRS then breaking class rules is cheating, which sounds as if its what the OP is trying to avoid. If all you do is cruise round the bay do what you like.
Back to Top
andymck View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work


Joined: 15 Dec 06
Location: Stamford
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 397 		Post Options Post Options   Quote andymck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 16 at 10:38am
Spinnakers come coated. So having had a discussion with my sailmaker there is no point in getting a new fast spinnaker done. What the coatings do is prolong the life of those top of the fleet cast offs and training spinnakers to make them easier to use.
I quite openly get mine done. Not my open meeting kites as they are new. But as soon as they need replacing, and it prolongs their useful life. No one has ever complained or protested. Only asked who I get to do it do they can send theirs too. Seeing a kite that the week before was a wet rag slide effortlessly from the sock and shed water is all you need to see to be convinced. It is also not very expensive.
Anything that prolongs the length of usefulness has to be good.

Andy McKee

Ps I send mine to Scam at Suffolk sails. rejuvenated Musto Kite still good after 2 seasons use. Much better than do it yourself waterproofing.
Andy Mck
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy