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    Posted: 11 Feb 16 at 8:02pm
No, I know there are lots of them, the same as there are lots of sailing clubs and regions, which is why it would be good to pull them altogether into a commercial list which I'm surprised hasn't been done before. It must have at some time in the past.
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There was once an Association of British Sail Makers that used to have a full page ad in Y&Y magazine.

Prominent among them was the king of small sail makers:  Mike Mac http://mcnamara-sails.co.uk/

There are far fewer than there used to be, e.g there is no dinghy loft with an hour and a half of Manchester.
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Originally posted by jaydub

There are far fewer than there used to be, e.g there is no dinghy loft with an hour and a half of Manchester.

Tim Harper?

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Originally posted by Paramedic

Originally posted by jaydub

There are far fewer than there used to be, e.g there is no dinghy loft with an hour and a half of Manchester.

Tim Harper?

Over an hour and a half for me, hence the comment.  He is my normal port of call for sail repairs.  Next closest are Andy at Impact and a kiwi guy in Harrogate.

It was much easier when Keith Atkinson was still in the trade.
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Grant Piggot he tends to specialize in Cat sails but depending upon your cunning plan he may be suitable.
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Also a lot bigger but seem to be wanting to get back into one design stuff are Hydes
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Here you go:

http://www.northropsails.com/

Have you had any dealings with these guys? Simon is the chap to speak to..... Very accomodating

Based at Ramsgate harbour.

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Originally posted by iGRF

I'd like to find a list of all the small Independant sail lofts there are in the UK, not sure if there is a resource where that might be found, if so happy to research that.

But in the meanwhile, those I can call to mind immediately

My local Gibson Sails who specialise in Miracles and more recently have been dabbling with GP's
Morgan Sails I'm aware of
Rooster must have a loft or do they sub out?.

Did Speedsails continue?

I notice an ad for Lennon sails that has popped up recently.

I'm looking for lofts capable of also doing the whole fit out, supply masts as well, got a project cooking which may or may not see the light of day, so any help with names of lofts and regions they service would be much appreciated.


There are lots of small sailmakers about, many mostly repair yacht sails or make small numbers of one-offs.
You want a mast supplier who also does sails?
Speed(?), Pinbax,  maybe time to look at mastmakers' lists of retailers and spot the sailmaker?

If you want anything technical, I'd suggest looking at the closest type of boat and seeing who has development experience that might be applicable. E.g. if I wanted something skiffy, I'd look at Cherubs and Int14's see who makes one-offs for them. If it was a family boat, I'd look around the slower classes. If it was something bigger, I'd look around the small keelboats.
If you don't need top performance or any development work done (say you were making training boats), there are a lot of cover makers and such like who can do the job perfectly competently, they'd just never sell racing sails as they don't have the jockeys or the reputation.
Some sailmakers have found there's more cash and less aggro stitching fabrics for other things, like architectural.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fudheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Feb 16 at 1:19pm
think part of the problem is that quite a few sail lofts that say 'independant' are an outlet for imports?
 Is that a problem? not really, by independant do you mean no franchisee? like hyde, north, ullmans, banks.....
bear in mind that no membrane sail is made in the uk. finished maybe. but not made... ooh what a grey area 'Independant sailmaker' as a term is....
the whole manufacturer from start to finsh and for that to be in the UK. I see so many sail lofts purporting to be sailmakers when in fact they are importing in the large proportion of their work.....



Edited by fudheid - 12 Feb 16 at 1:20pm
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most independent sailmakers (or franchise holders e,g. Ullmans or the North lofts)  will take on commissions and offer repairs etc.

Take your pick.... some will specialise in areas which are better suited to individual needs than others.

I've gone to the effort to actually ad the links to my top selection of people I would want to work with on a custom dinghy project if I were doing one:

http://www.lontonandgray.com/dinghysails
http://www.dolphinsails.com
http://www.pinbax.co.uk
http://www.gosails.com
http://www.edgesails.com
http://www.sailingbarntgreen.com/SuggittSails.htm


http://www.goachersails.co.uk
http://wirralsail.co.uk
http://www.sailrepair.co.uk
http://www.tridentuk.com/gb/cover-sails/trident-sails.html
http://www.jkasailmakers.co.uk/sailmaking.html
http://www.ultimatesails.co.uk
http://banks.co.uk
http://www.jeckells.co.uk
http://www.ullmansails.co.uk/sailmakers-plymouth.htm
http://www.lennonsails.com


http://www.gibsonsails.com
https://www.cygnus-sails.com
http://www.sanders-sails.co.uk
http://www.gpsails.com/Grant_Piggott_Sailmaker.html
http://www.nandjmussettsails.co.uk
http://test.parkerandkaysailmakers.com/sails/
http://www.onesails.co.uk
http://www.crusadersails.com
http://www.solosails.com
http://www.owensails.com
http://www.saturnsails.co.uk
http://www.saildoctor.co.uk
http://www.southcoastsails.com/Home.html
http://www.nickyscanvasworks.com/sailclinic
http://www.swiftsails.co.uk/
http://www.lucas-sails.com/#!boat-sails/c3eb
http://www.flewsails.co.uk



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its a good list but still missing loads...and a few errors....
there are 153 that have taken the time to fill in a yellow pages free advert...https://www.yell.com/ucs/UcsSearchAction.do?keywords=sail+makers&location=United+Kingdom&scrambleSeed=1689596770
and then there are probably quite a few more that still don't come up.
i think the now (rightly) defunct association of British sailmakers was a bit of a crock!

actually just realised, here you are on the internet, so you must be on a smart phone, or tablet or even a laptop /desktop.... have you tried using google??? LOL


Edited by fudheid - 12 Feb 16 at 3:38pm
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