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    Posted: 14 Nov 15 at 3:03pm
Originally posted by JimC

Perhaps the dreadful adult turnouts for UK Nationals in Lasers indicate that few do?

Or the disconnect between club racing Lasers and the Squad and Olympic circus?  I have owned several Lasers which I really enjoyed sailing at club level, but as soon as I went on the Open and National circuit I hated the experience ... The sailors were too aggressive (quite literally) for my liking.
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I have owned several Lasers which I really enjoyed sailing at club level, but as soon as I went on the Open and National circuit I hated the experience ... 

Interesting, I've never sailed at an Open or Nationals in a Laser, though I've done a lot of club sailing in them. However, I've been involved in running a number of Opens and Nationals of a range of classes, all were fun to do, with one exception - a class where there was little or no interest in helping other competitors launch or land on a shingle beach in a break, or much interest in joining in the social side on offer. No prizes for guessing the class! Being fair to them a lot of those involved had squad placings or even livelihoods which could be affected by how they performed, so the degree of self centredness is no great surprise. But it does illustrate how different the culture of the National and Open circuit is in an Olympic class compared to the non Olympic ones.
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Originally posted by PeterG

I have owned several Lasers which I really enjoyed sailing at club level, but as soon as I went on the Open and National circuit I hated the experience ... 

Interesting, I've never sailed at an Open or Nationals in a Laser, though I've done a lot of club sailing in them. However, I've been involved in running a number of Opens and Nationals of a range of classes, all were fun to do, with one exception - a class where there was little or no interest in helping other competitors launch or land on a shingle beach in a break, or much interest in joining in the social side on offer. No prizes for guessing the class! Being fair to them a lot of those involved had squad placings or even livelihoods which could be affected by how they performed, so the degree of self centredness is no great surprise. But it does illustrate how different the culture of the National and Open circuit is in an Olympic class compared to the non Olympic ones.
I remember going to a Laser inlands on my own, no-one else from my club, at Chew Valley in the early 90s.  I launched on Saturday and the guy the helped me with my launching trolley was Iain Percy!
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Might well be right about the culture in some Olympic classes (I can't comment on the laser so will take your word for it) but I can say that I've found it not to be the same with all Olympic classes, Finn culture is nothing like that - fortunately!
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Originally posted by davidyacht


Originally posted by ventus

Yes we all agree a laser needs, a new deck so hiking is easier, a larger rudder and a carbon rig. But even with out these changes people will be sailing them for decade's what ever tosh we talk on this forum.

Doesn't matter if all boats are the same ... You are confusing recreational sailing with racing, a common mistake


I was talking about racing.
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November 2015: Agreement between Cirrus Raceboats and Hartley Boats has been reached regarding the purchase by Hartley of the "Blaze business", Blaze production tooling and Rights.
 
The switch date is the 2016 Blaze Nationals in Paignton
 
Cirrus Raceboats Limited is not part of the sale.
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Doug - this is not exactly very newsworthy anymore !  It was announced quite some time back  ;-)


Edited by Cirrus - 22 Jan 16 at 8:13pm
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I agree Mike, but just finishing the thread - class was for sale, and now sold.
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..... as was widely known many weeks ago.
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Originally posted by Cirrus

..... as was widely known many weeks ago.

Apparently not here. But why on earth are you concerned about having it repeated?
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