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    Posted: 13 Nov 15 at 10:45pm
They're quite good if you can only afford a £500 sh*tter too ;-)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 15 at 11:15pm
Originally posted by Daniel Holman

They're good if you want to go to the olympics!



Really? Tell that to the poor b**tards with bent mast tops.

It's testament to the corruption at the heart of sailing and it's governance, that the peak of human development and competition for most is contested in antiquity by us. The sooner the IOC spots it if it hasn't already and drops the anachronism from the games the better it'll become and the gravy train will be over.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 15 at 11:19pm
Its about the person not the equipment, after all as Lance Armstrong said, "its not about the bike" . . . Oh, err, perhaps we better not go down that route!
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Ha even Lance couldn't have drugged his way to victory on a 1970's road bike.
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He could if everyone else was riding a 1970's bike.

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Yes we all agree a laser needs, a new deck so hiking is easier, a larger rudder and a carbon rig. But even with out these changes people will be sailing them for decade's what ever tosh we talk on this forum.

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Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by Daniel Holman

They're good if you want to go to the olympics!



Really? Tell that to the poor b**tards with bent mast tops.

It's testament to the corruption at the heart of sailing and it's governance, that the peak of human development and competition for most is contested in antiquity by us. The sooner the IOC spots it if it hasn't already and drops the anachronism from the games the better it'll become and the gravy train will be over.

Doesn't matter, won't be long before sailing is not in the Olympics
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Nov 15 at 8:33am
Originally posted by ventus

Yes we all agree a laser needs, a new deck so hiking is easier, a larger rudder and a carbon rig. But even with out these changes people will be sailing them for decade's what ever tosh we talk on this forum.

Doesn't matter if all boats are the same ... You are confusing recreational sailing with racing, a common mistake
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Originally posted by davidyacht

Doesn't matter if all boats are the same ... You are confusing recreational sailing with racing, a common mistake


That's not entirely true. The first duty of a racing boat is that people should want to get up out of bed on a Sunday morning and want to sail it. The premise that the boat doesn't matter implies that just as many people would get out of bed and go racing if the boat was a ghastly unresponsive back breaking tub as would if it were a delight to sail. I submit that is clearly not the case. After all if one just wants to compete there are cheaper and easier things to do than race sailboats.

And then the worst features of the Laser ergonomics are only apparent and effective to those driving the boat to the absolute limits of sinew and tendon.   You only have to watch a few club races to realise that the average club sailor doesn't do that. Perhaps the dreadful adult turnouts for UK Nationals in Lasers indicate that few do?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iiiiitick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Nov 15 at 1:09pm
Youths sail Lasers in their various guises because they feel they are on the path to Olympic greatness. When I rode a French racing bike in my distant youth I dreamed of Jacques Anquetil or Tommy Simpson. 
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