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    Posted: 13 Nov 15 at 3:04pm
Originally posted by PeterG

I suspect that sailors at clubs with shingle and a break tend to be more helpful to each other - you have to be, you can't winch a boat up the beach single handed, if the break sets in then you're likely to be very appreciative of help when you land, and most people respond to that by helping others in return. No bad thing.


That is exactly true, however there are times when someone has to land first in order to be there to help the rest ashore, and that obviously falls to the race leaders, the same launching, the good guys help the not so adept off the beach, to make sure they don't roll on the way out, the point being there are not always enough hands to handle the weight. The sea can also be very daunting to those not used to being beaten up by it and they can act in stupid ways born of a defensive attitude, so it does foster a very tight club, getting folk to walk out to the end of a rock groin to fetch Rogers Hornet back to the beach was a particular example.
   We windsurfers are a selfish lot, this born from years of only having ourselves to look after, so it is refreshing to be part of something like this and each and every converted windsurfer will be there in the forefront of any boat fishing exercise, unfortunately our minds are still writing the youthful checks our sport requires, yet sadly our body is now the age of the sport we are now engaged in, so its 'Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to physio we go!'
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which is why 'they' brought out the Aero for y'all....

Light as f*ck - tick

multiple rigs for varying wind strength - check (forget all that three classes bullsh*t.... that's just lip-service to chateratti on here.... no one who owns an Aerto gives a sh*t what sail you use as long as it's another boat to race against)

car top it on your own - check

modern materials - check (carbon where it counts, SFW it's got dacron sails... keeps the cost down and there was no performance gain with mylar)

cheap - check (relatively speaking anyway....)

support - manufacturer and class association- professional on both counts, not for everyone maybe, but it works for those who want to be a customer, not a stakeholder in their sailing

new - it looks as 'new' and 'cool' as a normal person's dinghy is ever going to...

sea - goes better on the sea than other options according to the Lymington crowd- and unlike the majority of the rest of the dinghy world, they don't mind putting their hand in their pocket for good boats if they need to, so if it had turned out to be rubbish we'd know by now....

So why haven't you bought one yet?  Got the class going down there.... it would suit lots of folks, all sorts of ages, skill levels, both genders and even the odd ladyboy etc 



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car top it on your own - check

Really, now that might just make me think!
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Very neat - shame there's no side view so you can see where the roof bars are. If I loaded like that on my car I'd be pushing the boat/trolley over the trim on the top of the rear door, which probably wouldn't be a great idea. Does that car have a roof bar or roller right at the back of the roof?
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I use my kit bag under the transom and a small roll of carpet across the back edge of the car.
With this method you are only lifting half the boat at a time. I did the same 'diagonal' method with the Moth.
Tie the boat to the trolley first and then you only have to tie the trolley to the car once it is up.
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Points of information ...

The Blaze hull most certainly IS all of 51-53kg when mouldings complete, joined and trimmed without fittings, foils, wings, or corrector weights and it has been so for many many years.   The wing system is around 8kg, the centrebord 3-3.5kg, fittings and lines maybe 2.5kg.  

Sure there are some older polyester hulls that struggled to get down to the class minimum hull weight of 72kg (hull fitted out with all controls, lines, centreboard and correctors) ... They will struggle even more over time.  If not washed out regularly with fresh water and then dried out periodically many polyester hulls WILL become 'porky' - one of the main reasons for using vinylester or epoxy today by many classes. These hulls were not necessarily like that when first produced (!) ... and the earliest ones are now approaching 20 years old.

If I sailed a 20 year old Laser it would not be reasonable to expect it to be as 'crisp' as one produced in the last year either.  But an early Blaze it can be made pretty competitive if you are prepared to sort it, treat it to a decent sail, and sweat a bit of that middle age spread off it.  All Blazes ever produced have been foam sandwich and do not tend to go soft as a result - so if you are on a real budget get an early one in reasonable nick and talk with the CA on what you can do to improve it.   

And if like GRF your only Blaze experience is in a relative 'clunker' ... try/find a decent one next time ! (it is a bit of the 'old girl friend' syndrome there btw - for some reason he KEEPS talking about her) .. only joking ... Wink)   

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Originally posted by salmon80

Price lists for single handers suitable for a 70-75kg sailor:

All boats ready to sail with combi, top and bottom covers and, if applicable, are the hull; rig; (carbon not alloy) sail etc. to have

OK (icebreaker) £12800
Blaze £10000
British Moth £7800
Solo (winder) £7500
Supernova £7500
Streaker (Butler) £7200
Aero £7000
D-Zero £7000
Lightning £6400
Laser £6100

Generally carbon = expensive boat but the Blaze stands out as very expensive to me. Conversely the Supernova seems great value - maybe that's why they have 100 registered for next years nats ...


I think that goslow price is ex sail - fairly confident its a £8500 boat turnkey.

What I think this shows is what outstanding value for money the *eros are when you consider technology, equipment, and performance. If the industry weren't shackled to the classes with hundreds/thousands of £500 sh*tters in the long grass at the back of the dinghy park, i.e. was like the market for any other recreational product you care to mention, the others here wouldn't get a look in. In my disgustingly arrogant opinion.
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It's precisely because the market isn't controlled by any professionally structured regime so it's left to well meaning foolishness. Recommending bloody Lasers, it's going on here, right now and until it stops the whole charade continues to be perpetuated.
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They're good if you want to go to the olympics!

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