Enterprise dilema

   The side bouyancy bags should be long enough so that the aft ones touch the transom and the fore ones touch the front tank. They don't on ours and on the ocassions we have capsized have taken on a lot of water. 

We too sail on a small water so at the moment I am not too bothered and as we have capsized only a couple of times and have sailed it dry so will live with it until the bouyancy bags need replacement or the boat gets upgraded.

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The Moo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 01 Jun 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 809	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Moo Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Enterprise dilema Posted: 26 Oct 15 at 1:53pm
	The side bouyancy bags should be long enough so that the aft ones touch the transom and the fore ones touch the front tank. They don't on ours and on the ocassions we have capsized have taken on a lot of water. We too sail on a small water so at the moment I am not too bothered and as we have capsized only a couple of times and have sailed it dry so will live with it until the bouyancy bags need replacement or the boat gets upgraded.

Lukepiewalker Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lukepiewalker Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 15 at 9:42pm
	In those 'swamped' circumstances you really need the transom flaps, or a bucket. As has been said, you need to get it moving on a broader point of sail, then once most of it has gone out the transom flaps you should be able to get the self bailers working.
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krt1978 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 26 Aug 15 Location: herts Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote krt1978 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 15 at 8:38pm
	Transom flaps have been blanked off, previous owner said they let in more water than they removed, thinking of reinstating them. It has 4 buoyancy bags, might have been slightly under inflated in rear (slow puncture), has built in buoyancy in bow ( 2 circular screw hatches ) Has self bailers, but really could not get it moving quick enough for them to work we just limped to shore for hardcore bailing session.

Jamie600 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jun 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 718	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jamie600 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 15 at 8:24pm
	Do you have a built in bow tank or a boyancy bag - or anything under the deck at all? Ents take in a lot of water but should not be above the centreboard case, check the bags are all present and fully inflated, if not then you have the dual problem of both inadequate floatation and the weight of the extra water taking up the space that should be occupied by the bag.
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patj Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Jul 04 Location: Wiltshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 642	Post Options Post Reply Quote patj Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 15 at 8:20pm
	Take something with you to stuff the centreboard case slot to stop the water coming in - soft hosepipe for example or even a towel - plus a bucket to bale with. And don't forget to tie them on! To get moving you need to back the jib to the opposite side and sail on a reach then open the transom flaps when moving well. Edited by patj - 25 Oct 15 at 8:21pm

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 15 at 7:00pm
	Well, it doesn't sound right for it to be quite that deep in the water. If you've got any good modern Enterprises at your club it might be worth comparing notes and see if you can cure the problem without too much effort. Personally though I'd have a more modern boat with decent buoyancy... A worst case Wayfarer might not be any better than the Enterprise.

krt1978 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 26 Aug 15 Location: herts Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote krt1978 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 15 at 6:45pm
	Hi all, I bought a composite 1978 Enterprise dinghy to use over our local 25 acre sailing lake with my kids (7& 4). The deck has seen better days & has damage, lifting varnish, soft bits. Had real fun learning to sail again ( got commercial coastal skipper in a past life, but forgotten most of it !) Really not sure weather to repair/re-deck it or get wayfarer instead. My 7 year old son has had us racing the last few Sundays, which is great fun but find myself drawn towards the cruising side. Our Enterprise has a very good set of cruising sales & combi trailer, the thing that really puts me off keeping it is when it is righted after capsize the water level is above dagger board casing. This makes it a real bitch to bail Any advise or abuse appreciated