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Woodburner ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332 |
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WTF does that mean? Kite a solo downwind? Is this some neo solo nazi expression us normal folk don't get?
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tgruitt ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479 |
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I don't get it either, Solos don't have kites? |
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Needs to sail more...
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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it's an old school expression - you internet self taught sailors might refer to it as 'Veal Heel' from early foiling moth videos that got you into this 'cool sport', although the rationale for windward heel is completely different.
It's used it to reduce wetted surface area downwind on oppies etc and do something I've never fully understood with the rig when sailing by the lee. Edited by kneewrecker - 27 Jul 15 at 1:58pm |
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tgruitt ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479 |
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Oh right, well you bring the rig to windward to bring the centre of effort more in the middle. Never heard it called 'kiting' before. We did it a lot in N12s when I was learning to sail.
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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... maybe it's just an oppy thing? Sailing nomenclature and etymology is not my specialistsubject.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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It means the less rule observant can fan the sail in the very light by just pulling on the sheet because the elastic will pull it back. To my way of thinking making the boat more awkward (and thus unpleasant?) to sail in the light isn't the best way of promoting rule observance, but each class will have its own culture on these things. On the windward heel, my understanding was that, given a boat which is faster in light air with a bit of heel to reduce wetted area, then if you heel it to leeward on a run the centre of effort will be well offset from the hull, requiring a rudder offset to keep on a straight course and more drag, but if you heel it to windward the CofE will tend to be over the hull and you'll need less rudder input and less drag. Edited by JimC - 27 Jul 15 at 2:21pm |
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iiiiitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 May 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
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As in sailing by the lee. The 'young brute' does it in his Byte. He sits very forward with the boom up in the air and the centre of effort in the middle of the boat. He then sails by the lee until it gybes. he then does it again on the new gybe....and so on. Is this effective? Possibly but not if he gets it wrong and falls in. Watching him coming downwind on a good chop in the nationals put my heart in my mouth!
See recent Nationals report on here. Let my efforts not be in vain.
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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I'm more impressed by the twister in the photo.
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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NickM ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 328 |
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Also the shape of the submerged windward hull will tend to make the boat bear away, counteracting any force from the sail on the other side trying to make the boat luff.
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