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    Posted: 24 Jun 15 at 7:17pm
I wonder what a recent Volvo winning skipper would have to say? I recollect sailing at bewl several times when Ian was competing there in his youth days..

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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jun 15 at 6:39pm
Not sure if we're talking about the same bloke but a director of some of those companies is also involved with "Bewl Holiday Homes LLP"

I live down the road and as far as I'm aware apart from the odd cottage there are no holiday homes there....yet.

Didn't something similar happen to Melton Mowbray SC

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A director of "Bewl Holiday Homes LLP" is also a director of "Kent Attractions LLP" this company owns "Bewl Water Boating" the current Landlord of BVSC

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So the director was appointed to the board of LAKE VIEW LODGES LTD,  LEISURE & TOURISM DEVELOPMENTS PLC, CV HOTELS LTD, CV RESORTS LTD in January and  INTERNATIONAL RESORTS GROUP PLC  in March!   He also has a number of other interesting directorships including  BEWL WATER FISHING LIMITED.

Simple really as he can, potentially, rake it in with the other interests with the sailing club out of the way!  Shame that the club can't put a business plan together that shows him a good profit as a result of keeping a sailing club on site!

Such a shame to see any club failing but especially one with so much history.
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I am horrified at some of these costs. My Old Farts Membership costs me £100 if I get discount for two work parties. This includes a berthing fee and £50 to the Canal and Waterways Trust, British Waterways that was. They own the water but we own the club and land. It costs my son more money to play hockey in winter than to sail in summer.
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Originally posted by kneewrecker

It's £2.20 per week Al.....

I got it right in the calculation

Point is that it is significantly more than comparable clubs. The boatpark land is unlikely to useable (under Local Plan etc rules) for much else, depressing its value compared to developable land in towns.
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Originally posted by tgruitt

Originally posted by kneewrecker

read it again Tom- second boats are £100 extra, Tera/Optimists only £70....


For comparison, my individual membership at Draycote including a board fee is £480 per annum.  The same package at Bewl would have been £477 per annum.  

 I get good value out of my membership, (it's the same price as my wife's municipal gym membership), although I accept that a lot of dinghy sailors deem it 'expensive'.


The point I'm getting at is that you pay a berth fee even if you bring the boat on a trailer each weekend to sail it!

We have this at Hunts. We call it a sailing fee. Berthing at the club is free as long as there is space (we currently have a waiting list for berths).

This is because part of lease means we pay per boat sailed at the club rather than boats kept at the club so the club has to charge accordingly.
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Originally posted by tgruitt

Originally posted by kneewrecker

read it again Tom- second boats are £100 extra, Tera/Optimists only £70....


For comparison, my individual membership at Draycote including a board fee is £480 per annum.  The same package at Bewl would have been £477 per annum.  

 I get good value out of my membership, (it's the same price as my wife's municipal gym membership), although I accept that a lot of dinghy sailors deem it 'expensive'.


The point I'm getting at is that you pay a berth fee even if you bring the boat on a trailer each weekend to sail it!

Think it may actually cover the water access fee, and is not really just a berthing charge at all, although it does give you a boat park space.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pierre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jun 15 at 3:09pm
Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by Pierre

Think you'll find that most lease holders on reservoirs like Bewl are looking to maximise income and diversify usage. It is the name of the game these days. There certainly wont be theme parks, but the days of sailing clubs having exclusive rights and access to the water are well and truly over.

Unless they own the lease or the freehold as a few clubs are doing. Or getting better defined leases that specify the max amount the rent an be increased by as well as having perpetual terms (i.e. an option to renew at the same terms).

Yup, fair point. Spot on Paul 
Not sure where the majority of sailors at Bewl hail from. I know we have a few over at Weir Wood now and again. Our commodore just sent an email out to all our members apprising them of the situation there. They could end up at Bough Beech or Weir Wood I suppose should they so wish. They'd get a warm welcome.
I am quite surprised at the situation. Tough times seemingly.....
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... that's not 'abnormal' for inland clubs is it?  (although I found it weird at first!)

It helps break the fee down into bite size pieces for the boatless crews.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tgruitt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jun 15 at 3:05pm
Originally posted by kneewrecker

read it again Tom- second boats are £100 extra, Tera/Optimists only £70....


For comparison, my individual membership at Draycote including a board fee is £480 per annum.  The same package at Bewl would have been £477 per annum.  

 I get good value out of my membership, (it's the same price as my wife's municipal gym membership), although I accept that a lot of dinghy sailors deem it 'expensive'.


The point I'm getting at is that you pay a berth fee even if you bring the boat on a trailer each weekend to sail it!
Needs to sail more...
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