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Woodburner ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332 |
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I've just got back from a trip up to Hunts, and I have to say what a delightful place that club is, I've travelled up that end of the M11 hundreds of times over the years on countless trips to Grafham, but nothing until now has ever given me a) cause to drive by that delightful town St Ives and the picturesque view up the river, nor b) to visit that club. OK it was a bright sunny spring day, but nonetheless what a pleasant location for a sailing club, just off a major roundabout, easy access, population centre nearby and a fair sized piece of water.
Got to get a highly recommended that one. Not to mention Vanessa organising her most hated web warrior a cup of tea..
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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My first ever go in a sailing boat (a GRP Ent called Zonda) was at what I guess was the original Hunts SC when it was on the Ouse at Hartford. Boy, were we glad when Grafham opened for business!
... having said which, there is indeed something special about small, member run clubs for which a vast area of windy water doesn't always compensate. And if someone had persuaded Redland Quarries to join all those gravel pits together - there'd be a lake bigger than Grafham.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Correct the original base for the club was on the Houghton Whale (which is now mainly Hartford Marina). The club sold that site some years ago after it was decided that we would never return to there as a base. As for the gravel pits, nice idea except that some are very shallow and there is a small thing called the Cambridge Busway that now goes through it. To be fair if we were bigger than Grafham one of the club would struggle to survive. part of the attraction of Hunts and the lake is the fact that it is smaller than Grafham so perceived to be a safer and less scary place for your kids to learn (although my youngest is now champing at the bit to go sailing at Grafham).
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Woodburner ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332 |
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I know which one I'd join if I lived up there, even if it is patrolled by Brienne of Tarth, don't get me wrong Grafham is a great club and the water extensive, but Hunts has just that bucolic welcome and certainly a more tactical water for the sort of 'interesting' sailing that close quarter single handers enjoy.
Grafham is big, littered with Cats, always some open meeting or other going on, I imagine you could rock up there, sail, change and speak to or know no-one other than those who came with you. Whereas Hunts you'd quickly be part of something. Just a feeling I get, although the new Commodore at Grafham is certainly shaking the tree there, so I guess it depends on what sort of boat you want to sail, 3 sails and your hair on fire aint exactly going anywhere at Hunts, it must be the onset of age.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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I wouldn't write off Grafham completely.... despite the 'big unfriendly lake' moniker they seem friendly enough to get a new fleet of *eros off the ground- no mean feet. And maintain some excellent racing for asymmetrics, cats and Lasers etc. Their winter event is the BEST in the SJ series by a country mile imho and they have put a lot back into the sailing community hosting all manner of training camps, open meetings and inland championships over the years.
There's also a guy who has intermittently raced a board against dinghies and been welcomed to do so - as have I at our 'big unfriendly club', that just happens to cater for anything from open meeting grade class racing to a menagerie of pretty much anything else you can squeeze on to the water.
And by stating this I'm not knocking the efforts of those involved in smaller operations- quite the contrary.... horses for courses, different strokes for different folks etc. But I know which one I would join if I lived over there, and it would probably be the one where I wouldn't feel like an outsider because I left my wife and kids at home doing what they actually wanted to do with their free time, rather than playing lip service to my own selfish pursuits, or worse, on 'galley duty' with the other lesser-WAGs like something from the 1950s.
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JohnJack ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 246 |
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We did an Open at Grafham two seasons back. We found it a cold, soulless, unwelcoming, unfriendly place and would probably not go back.
In comparison we went to Carsington in the same year and found it very warm, friendly and with a great feel to the place. I have been to quite a few clubs, and admittedly find the member ran clubs a bit more invested in visitors. Staunton, Pennine, Notts County, Papercourt, Frensham Pond, Elton, Budworth, Both Southport Clubs, West Kirby just to name a few (they all tend to allow you to through a tent up as well, which makes it easier). Datchet had a very modern feel to it, I kind of liked the place however the wind was pretty torrid, but the novelty of ducking under jumbo's from Heathrow was a bit strange |
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Woodburner ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332 |
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I have the same feeling of Grafham, spent the entire winter of '78 up there training, dinghy's were still in their hey day it was still a relatively new club back then, but all that time,at the end of it I hadn't met and got to know anyone other than the folk I was training with, oh and maybe the bar guy. Then again I suppose you can say that about most of the big clubs, but Hayling, which is the other monster just seems a bit more accommodating, they do at least take you money with a smile and maybe a chat, just Grafham there never seems to be anyone, except on that demo day I did with RS and Rodney, the commodore guy did show up for that for a bit.
You kind of expect Sailing Clubs to be up their own dark places, so it's to be expected, which is why when you come across the Hunts and Broxbournes of this world you're pleasantly surprised
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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so your entire opinion is based on experiences in 1978? ... long memory, but you are not alone in the 'big unfriendly' perception. I remember being told that about Grafham in the early 90's, I almost believed it too for a while.... oddly they were unfriendly and unwelcoming enough to let 100 or so kids access to their water, use of their rescue facilities, hot showers and decent catering. We also kipped in their club house, drank ourselves stupid on smuggled-in booze and still 'welcomed' us back, year after year. How very unwelcoming of them..... and no, I was not in a youth squad, this was just 'regional training'- a pooling of local club sailors who did the odd open or two. Ironically the youth squad were training at the same time as us... they also got access to all of these facilities. I wouldn't want to count how many medals and podiums were reached, in part, as a result of clubs like Grafham providing these vital services in the middle of winter when coastal sailing shuts down.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Pleased you liked the club Grumpf. You would be more than welcome to come visit and have your *rse handed to you by the fledgling D-Zero fleet any time you like....
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I've never found Grafham unfriendly. But cold? Grief yes, as soon as the air sees that particular reservoir it seems to get an extra 10 degrees of wind chill...
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