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    Posted: 11 Apr 15 at 11:35am
Rupert, its a bit of fun poking to be honest.  However...Mike owns Cirrus who sell the Blaze, so its not a member of a class association shouting about their class.  Its a commercial interest.  This thread was started by the blaze retailer and the last three 'Bumped' posts have been by the Blaze retailer!  Therefore is massively commercial.  I can not once recall ever seeing a Cirrus banner at the top of the page. There is no mention of cirrus under the marketing partners list on Y&Y.  So my point is, buy an ad.  Fund the site you use for your marketing.  Lets be fair, advertising revenues from this industry are going to be woeful.  Would we all be happy if RS, P&B, Sailboats, Hartley all started posting the same.  I would suggest looking at other forums we wouldn't like it.

Anyway, I agree with you.  I no like, I no read.  Just think its a shame that sites like this would not exist if every retailer thought it appropriate not to bother to pay to advertise their products but use the free forum.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 15 at 12:41pm
 I agree about the advertizing - it does keep the site running, so I'll concede that point.
Not sure about the other - there has been great interest from many of us on here about the new Blaze rigs and how they are being developed - I can't see the problem with Mike (who is also a sailor in the class - I believe that is how he became builder) pimping an event so we can see them in the flesh and have a go.
Maybe the extra revenue generated if he sells a few off the back of it could buy some advertizing space...
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Don't disagree with that Rupert, always interested in the rig updates or any dinghy 'development'. But the retailer pumping demo days and scrolling back through this thread 'bumping it up' and replying to own posts is using the forum as a marketing tool.  Which I don't have a problem with, but I don't see any other advertising on this website, advertising that is needed to fund, advertising that's needed to pay to host this and the class pr, event write ups etc.  So (without trying to be the self proclaimed forum police) if there was no commercial interest then I would say crack on if people are replying and interested.  Sadly there is an interest and as such the posts will always be weighted that way.  Do we really want every builder watering down what little content there is on here with notification of an open event?  I suggest not.  Please post away with rig updates or true development, but if you are gonna try and use the forum with a hidden commercial undertone, I would expect to be called on it.
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Bet they are having a great event this weekend mind!  Sun, wind, champaign sailing. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Xpletive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 15 at 10:02am
Originally posted by Null

........using the forum as a marketing tool.

Been promoting the Icon free on here for years too! Must save a fortune! Maybe he'll pass it on...trickle down economics and all that....cheaper sails on both classes or something?
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Originally posted by Xpletive

 

Been promoting the Icon free on here for years too! 

more years than units shifted (probably)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 15 at 4:25pm
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Originally posted by Null

........using the forum as a marketing tool.

Been promoting the Icon free on here for years too! Must save a fortune! Maybe he'll pass it on...trickle down economics and all that....cheaper sails on both classes or something?


Yup, they are down to 3 grand, thanks to the lack of paid advertising...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Xpletive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 15 at 4:55pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

more years than units shifted (probably)

Originally posted by Rupert

 Yup, they are down to 3 grand, thanks to the lack of paid advertising...


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Oh dearie me .... Yes I build the Blaze.  For the record I was a regular owner for many years before I got any commercial involvement, served two longish terms as class secretary including setting it up when the class association was first launched in 1996.    This 'owner' involvement, prior to taking on production when Topper dropped production of the boat, was for considerably longer than any subsequent commercial involvement.  I pay my CA dues, still regularly race the boat alongside other association members and will continue to do so, including this weekend when we enjoyed some great racing in some tough conditons at Burghfield.  You should have been there ... really.

I am not on the current committee in any capacity but they do ask me to highlight events occasionally on this forum.  Why me ?  Well frankly they simply don't want the hassle of 'engagement' that seems to come with any involvement here these days (prior experiences !) and for some reason think I have a tough enough hide to deal with it !    We could create another 'alter ego' or identity for the purpose but what the heck .... I very happy to help and always put my own name on each contribution .... just so you know.

And the next Blaze CA supported event is I think at POSH .... See a few of you there maybe ?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 15 at 7:20pm
So they want you to promote them here, but don't want the hassle to 'engage' themselves... Hmmm, sounds like a mandate to take some advertising

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