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    Posted: 13 Mar 15 at 11:03am
Always, always, carry a bottle opener. I have one of those little flat plate multi tools in my wallet. Only useful for prying tiller extension clippy things off, undoing shackles and opening bottles, really, though I have opened cans of beans with it in an emergency. Amazingly, I've had it over 30 years. Lost it several times, but somehow it always gets found again. 
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wow - iiitick massive fail, all you need to open a beer is another beer and you speak in plurals


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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 15 at 10:10am
Originally posted by iiitick

Tell you what......I got lots of sweeties and enjoyed them! A girl on a well known fittings stand offered us beer (my charm and the two good looking young stooges i was with did the trick) but we had no bottle opener. It would have been very bad form to stuff unopened bottles in our pockets so we were forced to decline. In future I will carry a bottle opener in my man bag because two pints of insipid Carlsberg cost £9.50!

... and if the well known fittings manufacturer had been staffed by a man he would have lent you a shackle key and set about the three of you with a challenge.  

Naturally, experience and a parsimonous attitude towards 'free beer' so prevelant in students and retired folks, would mean you could have smoked those clumsy fingers oiks you were with and have asked for a second....


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Tell you what......I got lots of sweeties and enjoyed them! A girl on a well known fittings stand offered us beer (my charm and the two good looking young stooges i was with did the trick) but we had no bottle opener. It would have been very bad form to stuff unopened bottles in our pockets so we were forced to decline. In future I will carry a bottle opener in my man bag because two pints of insipid Carlsberg cost £9.50!
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I think you're right Graeme- talking to some of my oldest sailing mates, they haven't even heard of the D-Zero... a slick presence, with plenty of freebies and marketing collateral could help spread awareness further.

I think you need to be careful though.... if it turned into an Apprentice style selling contest then you could alienate quite a few people who really are only passing an interest at this stage, but would NEVER EVER, not in a million years, deem themselves worthy of a 'new' boat.  They are however ripe for selling on to when the second hand market develops.

Secondly, not everyone who volunteers is comfortable taking on a 'selling' role, and if all they then feel their contribution wasn't valued simply because they didn't 'shift as many units', then you might find your volunteer roster a little depleted the next year.  You still need folks to set-up and shut down, clean the boats, keep the ropes tidy, answer the dull questions, make coffee runs etc....

Unlike the TV programme, it's not 'over' if you face this from the Class Chairman:


most of us have plenty of options to respond....


Not good for class harmony... in fact, probably better to have a natter in the corner eating doughnuts.

FWIW- I would expect nothing less than professionalism from RS, Laser, Hartleys etc.  They are there to raise awareness and close deals.... it's certainly never been a 'turn off' to have a professional approach when selling me boats in the past, quite the contrary.


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Originally posted by Daniel Holman

Graeme, can I hire you next year?


Well since there's no  Wink winky icon, I shall give it some consideration, assuming you don't want me to help you flog some lame plastic cat thing, I have a simple rule, if I can't wear the T shirt I can't sell it to someone else. Oh and it'll cost you at the very least a Punk, I'm not cheap. Wink 

As to the other points above, yes it's a class thing and yes I know you're not always there to flog your boat, but you are there to represent yourselves as an allegedly fun group of people who enjoy their particular craft. So sitting around looking bored, laying in the boat, stuffing your faces, or chatting amongst yourselves, what message does that send anyone passing by? Even worse ignoring anyone who comes on to have a look as the Canoe Beirdo's have done every bloody year I've ever been there, I don't even bother to try now.

Doing all that makes the whole exercise totally pointless, why are you even bothering to go?

Why not instead get some T shirts printed to flog, or have a competition to win a training weekend for two (nobody is likely to take you up on it but it's a focus point), have a box with a slot in it for a show draw (we used to chase business cards, you need email addresses these days) advertise the nationals and the venue they are at this year, cut out signs with the boats features and benefits and interest points stick them to it so they act as silent salesmen. Lollipops, chupper chip things, for passing kids (and me) or liquorice strips (that red strip stuff) and stickers you can never have enough class stickers think of something catchy, like that Northern Sweary b**tards sticker I see everywhere..

There's lots you can do to set yourself apart from the rest, enjoy the show as an event in itself, or honestly what is the point?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 15 at 9:57pm
Wow - yep, way to go Ospreys / Hartleys!
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13 new Ospreys! That is truly impreesive.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AlanH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 15 at 9:23pm
As part of the Osprey assn. stand, I can say we were delighted with the outcome of the Show, which was the sale of 13 boats. We acted as the warm up band, sending people onwards to the Hartley stand to proffer their cheques.
We were receiving quite a lot of love from people who used to sail Ospreys, or who currently sail slower boats but could be interested. And from people in other single string classes who lack our impressive numbers at Nationals and open meetings, and look on with some envy. All 3 groups might be there for the chat, or they might in time be converted/ return to the class. We also enjoyed receiving their chat, including from someone who knew a single digit sail number Osprey. We had a current Hartley on the stand, and a 41 yr old wooden Osprey, and we were visited early on in the Show by the two men who built that boat 41 yrs ago. Yes we think we had a good Show. Come and visit us next year.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 15 at 8:58pm
The class stands aren't alowed to sell boats at the show, as far as I'm aware. Awareness can be raised, prices chatted about, but actual deals have to be made after. The company stands pay a lot more to be there.

Funny thing about the RS stand - I had a lovely chat with someone who knew I wasn't going to be buying, discussing boats, the universe and everything. They are enthusiasts too, even if they are being paid to be there. I gather they had an excellent show, so they must have done plenty of sales talk too. Good.

And iiiiiiitick, I can guess who you bumped into!
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