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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Maybe Lasers, Blazes, Aeros and Zeros should get together for a series of handicap races where the rigs can be any size. Other classes could join in - I've often wondered how a Firefly with an Albacore rig would go in a force 1/2!
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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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Having spent 10+ years racing yachts I find this thread laughable. If you have a #3 headsail and it's blowing 20 knots you put the thing up, you don't carry on with #1 because that's what you used last Sunday! If the wind keeps building, reef the main.... Why the heck should it be any different in dinghies?
The technology and fittings are there in these classes. If it gets more people on the water on light or windy days and makes folks more comfortable about investing in stuff designed to work with their boats by manufacturers (preferably British ones he said patriotically) then great. I hear the argument about the budget challenge and how it might be 'unfair' to some people and I say ... rubbish. I can't think of any other hobby sport where such a thing would be a problem and it's really only at the extremes that such things would have any real impact, at which point, frankly, it's so windy that you just hang-on or go ashore to not break stuff, or you get soooo bored that you fall-asleep / go ashore for a cup of tea. If you feel so strongly about it, change to any one of the hundreds of classes which still exist with just the one rig/sail choice. Really, is anyone actually saying that in a clear majority of cases that switching from a Full to Radial Laser sail or an Aero 7 to 5 will make so much difference that the sailors who don't switch (or can't) will feel terribly disadvantaged? I raced Lasers for 7 years and never felt the need to go to the Radial once I'd outgrown it. |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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I am sure the Burghfield Bar was awash with mutterings about PNs and bandits over the weekend.
Paul - Well quite .... but then more than a few of us were racing elsewhere of course. ![]() Rupert - I rather like the idea .... 'cat herding' comes to mind. |
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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If the manufacturer embraces it they should create a multi-rig class, so that people know what they are buying into. Coming clean on what the class policy actually is allows heavy or cost conscious sailors to make an informed decision, rather than believe the marketing blurb.
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Hi 'Stretch' We have pasted CA (and our) policy from earlier in this thread below again as a reminder. Other classes/makers will have their own approaches and from those I've read all have been very clear so far. Mike L. The Blaze family has three sails of different sizes that can
ALL be used on the same set of standard spars. Fire (8.8m), Blaze (10.4m)
and Halo (11.5m) are however raced as totally different classes even when they
share meetings. If you wish to 'mix' your use of them then you are racing
in a different class and all that goes with that - easy to understand and
clear. Mike L. Edited by blaze720 - 09 Mar 15 at 3:34pm |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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I think you have kind of missed the point. Those who feel hard done by are the ones who either cannot (because their class does not allow) or they cannot afford it. This creates cheque book sailing in the eyes of some and adds more fuel to the elitist fire. Not to mention those who get p*ssed off and leave the sport. As RS are now reportedly marketing the 3 Aero rigs are 'reef options' for 1 class this is only going to get worse and shame on RS for backtracking on this.
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"As RS are now reportedly marketing the 3 Aero rigs are 'reef options' for 1 class this is only going to get worse and shame on RS for backtracking on this."
Where have you seen that 'reportedly' " Thats nonsense, they have and are still very clear its three separate classes for racing, exactly the same as the Laser.
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Null ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745 |
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I agree with this however we are not talking rig swapping we are talking class swapping as that's what has been touted. If indeed these are to be 1 boat with 3 rigs then that is fine. Swap away, however expect the total recommended crew weight to tumble and they PY to reflect all 3 rigs (not individual numbers the system was designed for classes not seperate sub divisions within a class was it not). Not only that the boat to be that much more money s all 3 rigs would be needed in many cases. You cant have the penny and the bun.
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Null ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745 |
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Think it was quoted by a dealer on SA simon, could be wrong though. Not sure where its come from it makes no sense, if it is true i can imagine a number of peeved off people. I expect its been taken out of context somewhere and blown out of reasoned proportion!
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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On another forum from a source at RS according to the poster who is UK based. (quoted further down in the thread too should the OP choose to remove their comment) IF this is the way RS are going with the Aero then it is a shame a real shame. I know their execs lurk around here so maybe they could pipe up with either a confirmation or a firm denial (and I do hope it would be the latter rather than the former)......
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