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   Was it you in 456 or was that the  other solution? Glad your enjoying the new toy anyway.   

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ds2 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 27 Nov 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote ds2 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: The Solution. Posted: 08 Mar 15 at 10:31pm
	Was it you in 456 or was that the other solution? Glad your enjoying the new toy anyway.

Woodbotherer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 11 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 192	Post Options Post Reply Quote Woodbotherer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 11:27am
	Yep 456 had to check wasn't sure what the number was, Video of that start here
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Dougal Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 23 Sep 09 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 556	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dougal Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 12:00pm
	When I had a Solution I used a couple of strips of jap tape on the centreboard to keep it down. Edited by Dougal - 09 Mar 15 at 12:06pm
	What could possibly go wrong?

AlexM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 10 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 857	Post Options Post Reply Quote AlexM Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 12:52pm
	Sounds like you hit the bottom (the tiller cleat releasing and the board coming up)

gordon1277 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 665	Post Options Post Reply Quote gordon1277 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 1:23pm
	Looking at the video, if the rig is the same as the Phantom, in that amount of breeze I would expect you to be going quite hard on the kicker and beginning to rake to de power. Not that easy to tell from the short clip. Does the rudder down cleat have tension adjustment?
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Noah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611	Post Options Post Reply Quote Noah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 1:54pm
	If the rudder downhaul cleat is the correct break-out clamcleat it'll have release adjustment via rotation of the cam under the front end of the jaws.
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Woodbotherer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 11 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 192	Post Options Post Reply Quote Woodbotherer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 2:25pm
	tbh I've never come across a cleat like that I thought I'd bust it, I could have hit something there are lots of underwater shallow bits, but I didn't feel anything untoward and the blade was still unblemished when I put it away. Kicker, yes a fair bit, it's bloody noisy, makes a scary banging sound when I tacked a couple of times, I found myself working it a lot, especially for the gybes offwind, there are lots of pulleys and maybe they're banging into each other. This is a proper boat, with lots of proper kit on it, not normally targeted at muppets like me who other than the Alto have largely experienced 'more downmarket beach style boats' Lasers, RS's and the like, no disrespect to RS but their level of fitting out ain't really in Ovingtons league at the level of stuff (500, 100) I've had new before. But with that comes incompetence at putting it all together, I've never had to attach the sail to the boom before rigging it for example, funnily enough a mate was rigging his Solo next door and he had to fit an entire bolt rope along the boom, what's that all about? Very inefficient what that must do to the flow.
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Woodbotherer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 11 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 192	Post Options Post Reply Quote Woodbotherer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 2:31pm
	So another question then, was that windy enough to rake? I'd gone out with not enough rig tension I thought and wanted more on just before the start. It wasn't that windy at the start, it got up more as the race progressed, 17-18 mph according to Lydd 4-5 bf I'd have said and it was only 3-4 at the start I'd reckoned. So at what point do you all start raking the rig?
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Null Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745	Post Options Post Reply Quote Null Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 2:36pm
	STart raking as you feel overpowered Graeme, there is no fixed point. When i borrowed my brothers Phantom for the Birkett last year. I was fully raked with max-kicker in the top end 4 round by the Ullswater narrows. You should be aiming to keep the boat flat for the majority of the time. If you are sailing on its ear its slow, start dropping the rake back and raising the board. You will be surprised how much quicker you go if you use the tools available to you correctly

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 15 at 3:21pm
	Must be the cataracts Graeme, save for the vang swivel, the aero's are all Harken blocks :-) If its anything like the supernova, you start raking when you can't keep the boat flat and yes the board can help, but thats a last resort when everything else is murdered on and the sail as flat as it can be. However, the raking allowed me to sail a Supernova in a very large wind range so it was certainly very effective with that rig.