New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: The Solution.
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

The Solution.

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 678910 34>
Author
ex laser View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 25 Mar 09
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 725
Post Options Post Options   Quote ex laser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: The Solution.
    Posted: 12 Jan 15 at 12:13pm
As the aero and zero manufacturers both know, the best way to sell a boat is to demo it. It's time consuming, but worth it to be rewarded with sales.

I remember when comets came out in the late 70s/ early 80s, they were sold though a agent and they trailed the boat to small clubs all over the country. They even came to my old club at Warwick in the early 90s and were rewarded with three orders. At that time, comets were selling 40 plus boats a year. Soon after comet dinghies got rid of the agents and sold the boats direct and the fact they have sold less boats year on year ever since tells it's own story.
Back to Top
mangoman View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: 09 Jul 09
Location: norfolk
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 69
Post Options Post Options   Quote mangoman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 15 at 5:33pm
I'm sure there is now a Solution at Newhaven and Seaford SC which is down your way I believe. Maybe he'll let you have a go !
Believe me I reckon you will like it ..
Back to Top
Woodbotherer View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 11 Dec 14
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 192
Post Options Post Options   Quote Woodbotherer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 15 at 5:51pm
We've tried two or three times to hook up with that guy and in each case it would have involved a four hour drive for at best ten minutes after a race.

Given three of us have been attempting to get a go since October now, it is no surprise to me why the class as it currently stands aint going anywhere.

However I've an appointment with Ovington at the dinghy show and they've promised to try and sort us out with a demo boat after the show.


Edited by Woodbotherer - 10 Feb 15 at 5:53pm
Back to Top
Woodbotherer View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 11 Dec 14
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 192
Post Options Post Options   Quote Woodbotherer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 15 at 11:30am
On my drive still wrapped up is a brand spanking new one, crispy sail, I'm like a kid at Christmas, but also with a degree of trepidation.. me? brand new boat? I was expected one that had been used a bit, pre owned, I'm now terrified of dinging it. Bust it you own it sort of thing and as has been well documented, care and consideration aint my strongest points.

It's the lightest thing I've handled, probably not quite as light as an Aero, but then that's not such a bad thing and the reason is probably why I like it so much already without sailing it, the centreboard and case.

I've had a good paw all over it, it's a V hull, didn't realise that, that's a good thing as well, and it's got a parabolic rocker with a healthy tail lift, can see why it's going to tack well and be an excellent close water device, exactly what's called for down the lake.

I've got it til April which should give me and a few others time to get a feel for it, I've seen it in action already with Jack and his, took a lot of over hauling in the EPS once he got out front and no Laser came even close that time so it can be done if you give it it head and a half decent start and first beat.

He's got the full sail and this one is the flat cut,(doesn't look that flat to me, hate to think how much belly there is in the full cut one could be a negative for windward work)  so with any luck we'll see what difference that brings, I'm even thinking of wandering down the lake later to give it a go without a race surrounding it, just to get a feel, apparently it's a 'best sailed flat' type of boat which I'm not that comfortable with tending to like heeling unless it's windy.

No question with that nose and rocker it will be an excellent sea boat, plenty of free board, loads of volume, a silly mistake calling it a lightweights only boat, it'll support a lot more weight than a Solo for example but nobody considers the Solo a light persons craft. Yes it's a junior Phantom but that's like saying a Battleship is a Jnr Aircraft carrier. I can see a lot of the Phantom in it, which is good news, I really rate the Phantom as a good allrounder and have always wished I was big enough to cope with that massive rig.

I'm not even that fazed with the rig, I carried the mast about once we'd broken down, it's not that heavy and it's black, the only shame is it's held up with wire, but it does have an excellent raking system. It's set up with a rear horse thing and I've been warned not to block to block it or I'll kill it stone dead, so that'll mean I'll have to fiddle with something back there as I can't help myself block to blocking at any opportunity. Sheet loads are apparently light, I won't like that either, bit like bar pressure on kitesurfing kites us windsurfing 'men' like loads of it or it doesn't feel like we're doing anything.
It was difficult to tell in the hall but the sail also looked a tad 'hooky' it's probably just the show and the right strings had yet to be pulled, it was a very business like sail though, nothing I could criticise about it's build, except the Hyde logo which will have me checking the battens out for potential replacement if I bought one but rig wise, overall, V the Aero or say the Supernova, it's in a total other league of proper.
All the bits of string are endless, they look to be cleated exactly where I'd want to sit in light to medium conditions, looking at the rig CE over the CB C of LR positioning but the team of Solution sailors say otherwise, I'll find that out shortly.
Fundamentally it looks an awesome little craft that dinghy world have overlooked which is hardly surprising since they do all tend to be a tad up their own transoms, imagine if it had carbon and cupholders, with a rating of 1090 there would be queues forming round the block. Wink

I'm sure more will be writ about this undiscovered little gem in the very near future...
Back to Top
Rupert View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 11 Aug 04
Location: Whitefriars sc
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8956
Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 15 at 11:36am
Did you buy it direct from the show? If so, I'm really impressed by the speed of it all.

Looking forward to hearing how you go in it.

Now, should we start a sweepstake on disillusionment?
Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
Back to Top
Woodbotherer View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 11 Dec 14
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 192
Post Options Post Options   Quote Woodbotherer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 15 at 11:48am
No I haven't bought it, if you read the thread back there, it tells the tale of trying to get a demo, failing then contacting Nathan and Chris at Ovington and they said they had a demo boat coming down for the show, there are a few down here who want to try it, lots of us like Centreboards for all the reasons stated and light build boats, daggerboards and fixed rudders don't mix with beaches and lakes with underwater obstructions that we all constantly bang into.
So this was all organised some while back just as I'd given up on the Zero then it gets it's handicap back and I've got this to try.. Irish man in the dustbin peeing in the corner me, spoilt for choice, but at least this time, come the decision it will have been after I've tried all the boats first rather than what I've done it the past, buy in haste and repent at leisure.
It should also be pointed out that I haven't entire fallen out with the EPS, it's serving me well and I've had a few results in it now, it's just consistency which eludes me across the wind range and only a slightly more clement handicap will do that, especially now the banditerati have upped the notch another 10 points for the Miracle Mothers!



Edited by Woodbotherer - 02 Mar 15 at 11:51am
Back to Top
mangoman View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: 09 Jul 09
Location: norfolk
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 69
Post Options Post Options   Quote mangoman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 15 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by Woodbotherer

No I haven't bought it, if you read the thread back there, it tells the tale of trying to get a demo, failing then contacting Nathan and Chris at Ovington and they said they had a demo boat coming down for the show, there are a few down here who want to try it, lots of us like Centreboards for all the reasons stated and light build boats, daggerboards and fixed rudders don't mix with beaches and lakes with underwater obstructions that we all constantly bang into.
So this was all organised some while back just as I'd given up on the Zero then it gets it's handicap back and I've got this to try.. Irish man in the dustbin peeing in the corner me, spoilt for choice, but at least this time, come the decision it will have been after I've tried all the boats first rather than what I've done it the past, buy in haste and repent at leisure.
It should also be pointed out that I haven't entire fallen out with the EPS, it's serving me well and I've had a few results in it now, it's just consistency which eludes me across the wind range and only a slightly more clement handicap will do that, especially now the banditerati have upped the notch another 10 points for the Miracle Mothers!


Well I hope you enjoy it as much as I do sailing mine and you get a few of you together down there on the South coast. We can all meet up at the Nationals at Felpham in June .....
Back to Top
Rupert View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 11 Aug 04
Location: Whitefriars sc
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8956
Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 15 at 2:46pm
OK, that makes more sense. Have fun!


Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
Back to Top
turnturtle View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 05 Dec 14
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2538
Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 15 at 3:26pm
Originally posted by Woodbotherer



I've got it til April 

wow- a whole month... no doubt you'll have it dialled and drilled so all the impending complaints about its unfair handicap will be fully justified; backed with solid empirical testing from the race course across a wide range of conditions and personal circumstances.  Wink


Edited by turnturtle - 02 Mar 15 at 3:28pm
Back to Top
Woodbotherer View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 11 Dec 14
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 192
Post Options Post Options   Quote Woodbotherer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 15 at 3:45pm
If I don't win with it during that time it's going back and if I do, well then I'll have a right conundrum..

But you can be sure, you'll get a blow by blow account complete with snr moment into the bottom diving events, then I shall see if I can improve it with a bit of frankenboat rig improvements. Wink

Oh and heaven forfend that there might be a handicap event populated by you and the d-zeroarti and I should turn up with my 1090 against your 1040 and it's blowing force 2-3 and there are short wavelength nose botherers to bear away into.. Wink


Edited by Woodbotherer - 02 Mar 15 at 3:50pm
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 678910 34>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy