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turnturtle 
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gordon1277
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 11:12am |
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Hi James
Look at this another way if a small lightweight person is put off sailing after getting stuck at 45 degrees in the Aero (or any other boat), then having righting lines and not having people make daft comments might mean they stick with what could be a great sport for all sizes and shapes. |
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turnturtle
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 11:30am |
similarly if a few daft comments is enough to put someone off trying to stick with anything, then frankly they probably haven't got the mental physique needed to drag oneself through the more frustrating moments of a life-long sport like sailing.... they are going to face bigger challenges than a few daft comments, that's for sure!
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Rupert
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 11:36am |
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The only problem I have with righting lines is when the fall down and start dragging in the water. I don't have them on my Lightning, as the bit I struggle with is actually getting back into the thing once it is upright and I've failed to climb over. What I need is a ladder.
But if a righting line makes the difference to someone, have other people taking the piss out of them really doesn't help the sport. Bit like all the "oh, that's a crap boat" comments we have had in the past. |
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turnturtle
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 11:44am |
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No - it doesn't 'help', but I can't really see it does that much damage either. Every sport has a bit of kit snobbery and banter- if everyone was 'awfully nice' all the time about everything related to the kit and their fellow club members it could feel a little claustrophobic....
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Null
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 11:54am |
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I don't get it? So someone fits righting lines? If they are one of my mates, I would probably take the piss. If they were a newbie i would recommend them. I had them on my 300's probably other than the kicker the rope i used the most!!! My brother fitted Pink sail numbers to his boat. Again I destroyed him for it, like I do about his PY if/when he beats me. The same way I rip into my other mate for sailing an OK that looks like it was built out of drift wood. The same way I take the piss out of the K1 sailors for needing stabilisers.
Does it have an effect on the sport, no it does not! If anything the banter makes it more enjoyable! IMNSHO righting lines are a worthy spec list optional extra, one i would have no problem fitting if i felt the boat needed them.
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 1:27pm |
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Seems to me that if a boat doesn't need righting lines it's either very narrow or else for wimps...
And I find this enthusiasm for droopy booms bizarre, what's so good about a feature that is both aerodynamically and ergonomically undesirable, and what will happen if a fashion comes along for increased mast rake and the sail no longer fits? That's why Finn rigs are the way they are... Edited by JimC - 12 Feb 15 at 1:39pm |
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 1:30pm |
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... or has a keel on the bottom?
Actually, need is a little strong. A boat can benefit from righting lines |
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 2:19pm |
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I guess a low boom keeps the heeling arm down. A friend of line tried the Aero and found the high boom made judging sheet tension and boom angle difficult, but maybe you get used to it. He was also surprised how twitchy it was downwind, although impressed by acceleration on the reaches. All in all I got the impression he wasn't overly enthused by it.
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Posted: 12 Feb 15 at 2:21pm |
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Jim,
I think Dan explained this to you once already. I wont profess to know. But the fashion wont change in a class if its impossible to actually rake the mast any further. Mainly because it simply wouldn't be possible. ME personally I prefer the look of a smaller gap between boom and deck a la Finn, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker.
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