Tiger Trophy 2015 results

Originally posted by Neptune The courses have a huge impact too, but so does how the other boats treat you.  Its bloody hard piloting a Musto or similar down a leg with the kite up, you try to see where you are going, but its never helps that people don't give you warning they are there until too late.

I find that just so, so wrong. If a boat has been designed in such a way that the person sailing it has a massive blind spot while traveling at what could be 20 knots, then I really don't want to be sharing the water with them. A small boat trogging back upwind at maybe 3 knots doesn't stand much chance of spotting which skiff coming down at extreme speeds and angles is going to be in the way, let alone being heard by the skiff sailors, who are upwind. Blaming other boats for your lack of look out really isn't good enough.

Originally posted by Rupert Originally posted by Neptune The courses have a huge impact too, but so does how the other boats treat you.  Its bloody hard piloting a Musto or similar down a leg with the kite up, you try to see where you are going, but its never helps that people don't give you warning they are there until too late.   I find that just so, so wrong. If a boat has been designed in such a way that the person sailing it has a massive blind spot while traveling at what could be 20 knots, then I really don't want to be sharing the water with them. A small boat trogging back upwind at maybe 3 knots doesn't stand much chance of spotting which skiff coming down at extreme speeds and angles is going to be in the way, let alone being heard by the skiff sailors, who are upwind. Blaming other boats for your lack of look out really isn't good enough.

Originally posted by Washy71 No blame on either side, a racing accident.

We don't have that concept in sailing.

Case 26

...An important purpose of the rules of Part 2 is to avoid contact between boats. All boats, whether or not holding right of way, should keep a lookout, particularly when approaching a mark.

If you aren't going to be able to keep a satisfactory lookout in the prevailing circumstances then you shouldn't be in the race. What is satisfactory is going to vary with circumstances, but I've certainly retired from the Bloody Mary because we weren't confident we were able to keep a satisfactory lookout in the prevailing conditions with the level of experience in the boat we had on board. A big mixed fleet and especially a pursuit race is a lot more difficult than a class race.



Edited by JimC - 03 Feb 15 at 12:58pm

I may have been a little unfair to Neptune in taking that part of his post out of context, as it was part of an explanation as to why he may not do the big handicap events.

I'm sure at one time there were big asymmetric handicap events, weren't there? It would make sense - maybe put a yardstick maximum in to ensure you are getting boats which use the apparent wind as Asys ought to, then they can crash into each other to their heart's content without having to worry about us slow boats.

Originally posted by Neptune Thing is in my experience most asymmetric boats look out for each other as they realize the other guy can't always see them.  It's the responsibility of both boats ultimately to try and avoid collisions