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Simon Lovesey ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 349 |
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From what I hear Hunts are doing some great things, they justifiably won the GJW Direct Venue of Year (inland) last year for Championship Hosts and by all accounts implementing some great innovations at grass roots level. Shows what can be done when there is a will and some forward thinking people.
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ChrisI ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Aug 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 143 |
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"At the moment my main beef is that most of us do things f.o.c for the club but there has been a fairly recent culture by the previous administration some of who are still present, of paying certain club members to do things. We recently had a garage door replaced it's just an up and over thing, but the offenders charged £300 to fit it whilst others just do things for the good of the club and it winds me up tighter than a watch spring, particularly since the weekend before the door expenditure I'd worked from 6 til midnight on bar duty for ef all and earned about 300 quid..."
I agree - I think this is the one thing in a club that people should really be beware of - can sow all sorts of division. Especially when people get paid to do the same thing as others do for free.... it makes them look like fools. And then the added complication of people thinking those who get paid only want to do more of it because they get paid more....but altogether another string I think... |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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the economic gearing's all wrong.... why have a bar in the first place?
If it's all voluntary this and sweat equity that to save all this money, why don't the folks who want to drink just bring along their own booze? If they use a glass, wash it up.... quite simple really.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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In 2 minds on the payment thing - we do it when it is jobs that involve machinary and specialist knowledge, and so far, no real problems.
Agree with TT on the bar thing - we simply have cans and bottles behind the kitchen counter, and put a bar up sometimes for events. Or bring your own booze. |
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Woodbotherer ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 192 |
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Wel I wouldn't call 150 quid for a mornings door hanging mates rates..and I wasn't really consulted about it, the head of the house committee just did it. So next committee meeting there's going to be a bit of a row, then I think it'll be we want three quotes for everything and if members want to quote all we'll and good, the other problem they're paying cash which is hooky and all my business life I've been (stupidly) straight with the tax man it never does to cross them, but paying cash in hand like this makes us very liable. Meanwhile another member is fitting a complicated tagged door entry system for nothing and not so long ago we had an entire party rebuilding a slip, again nobody got paid, this basically one guy is undermining everything the rest of us stand for, trouble is, he's been on the committee forever and he's a mate so it's going to be tricky, personally I just want to go f**k it and walk away, let them get on with it, rather than be 'that person' who stands there and says 'no, it aint fair,' which is what I'm doing at the moment. Clubs and committees who'd be on them..
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Agree that sounds wrong, and that 3 quotes, especially when club members are involved, keeps everything above board - as does ensuring that it actually goes through the books.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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not if you were incorporated it wouldn't.... it's totally their issue to decide what income they declare or otherwise. Just be straight up on your books about what was paid out and keep a record of the receipt. If they want to create fraudulent alternative paper trails for their declarations, then more fool them, but you are neither liable nor complicit in the fraud when trading as a limited company with cash suppliers.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Doesn't really sound like full commercial rate either though does it? While I understand your concern, having experienced the hassle of trying to find firms to actually quote for little jobs, are you at risk of making the head of house committee's job more stressful and troublesome with the result that they say "**** that" and give up? Volunteers for that particular gig are not easily found IME. To ask old Bill to do the job for cash takes 5 minutes, and as long as all the names are in the club accounts I think its still legal, we just need to be sure Bill gives a receipt and is aware that his name is in the books if the IR run a check, so he keeps all legit his end. To find three firms to tender for the job, read the tenders, answer all the questions, well, you'd be very lucky if it only took 5 hours. I think I'd be very wary about asking volunteers to do that much extra non productive work. Of course when it comes to serious size contracts that's another matter entirely. Edited by JimC - 02 Feb 15 at 3:33pm |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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You could say that if the job is too small to warrant 3 quotes, why isn't it being done by a volunteer anyway?
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Woodbotherer ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 192 |
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I dunno 300 quid a day? This is handyman territory. £8- £10 per hour round here, even at £20 per hour it's only 80 quid, that represents nearly forty quid an hour.. Even brickies aren't on that.
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