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    Posted: 27 Jan 15 at 10:44pm
Originally posted by Vronny

In 20 years time all those people now in their twenties who are too busy or financially strapped will hopefully have more free time and feel richer. If they fondly remember all the sailing they did as kids, whether in squad training or just at their home club, maybe they'll be ready to get back into the sport.
There again, if in 20 years time those same people are still too busy or financially strapped, then the sport will really struggle and the long term future of clubs will look very doubtful. 


This.

The first 29er kids haven't grown up enough yet to come back. I wonder what they'll chose to sail if they do return?
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20 years ago, a cheap, probably useable boat cost somewhere between £200 and £300. These days it costs between £200 and £300. I expect it still will in 20 years. Sailing doesn't have to cost much, and the plentiful supply of old boats means it will stay that way.
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Blimey, I thought I could be a bit dour but I'm more hopeful than recent posters.

I don't think that future disposable income is such an issue. Messing about on the water and having some fun racing your mates need only cost as much as you want it to. It's 75% state of mind 25% equipment. 

I also really do believe that the cost of most products follows the available money supply. You see it all over the world with different pricing in different regions. If money became generally tight across the board, either products would get cheaper or simpler and cheaper and we as customers would also embrace the new norm. 

To be controversial I am not so sure that the injection of grant money has done that many favours. How many grants were available in what is seen as the heyday? Sure we have warmer Clubhouses, fleets of Fevas and shiny RIBs. However it is like any drug, it feels good, you get used to having it, need more and it distorts reality. To be political, houses of cards can get built on very sandy ground. 
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Originally posted by davidyacht

 Cut to the chase, think "Total Recall" where you will have a sailing memory implant ... maybe there is hope for us when our knees wear out

I'm not sure implanted sailing memories would be my first choice for memory implants <cue Sid James cackle>

You could have some of mine, it would be like getting a life. LOL
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The demographic who can afford sailing are generally sprogging-up later in life and have a prospect of not retiring until they're nearly 80.... i think it's fairly conclusive that the sport will contract dramatically over the next two decades, in the UK at least.
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In 20 years time all those people now in their twenties who are too busy or financially strapped will hopefully have more free time and feel richer. If they fondly remember all the sailing they did as kids, whether in squad training or just at their home club, maybe they'll be ready to get back into the sport.
There again, if in 20 years time those same people are still too busy or financially strapped, then the sport will really struggle and the long term future of clubs will look very doubtful. 
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Originally posted by SUGmeister

For what it's worth if you're looking into the future of sailing as a viable sport 20 years hence then in my opinion grass roots sailing needs to be serviced by cheap, really cheap boats. Forget about your foils and other high tech stuff make ok boats cheap. I don't know what the relative value of plywood boats were in their heyday but I can only see sailing surviving in quantity if you can have good supply of cheap durable low tech boats designed to carry weight.

Boats today are just too expensive, perhaps RS have cottoned on to that with their Aero, would it be any worse if it were made slightly heavier but more cheaply?

Is this the 20 to 40 generaton who only understand brand new toys?
At the current rate of decay, my RS400 will still be sailing in 20 years time.
The cost of the boat is a small corner of the budget in the long run.
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Originally posted by davidyacht

 Cut to the chase, think "Total Recall" where you will have a sailing memory implant ... maybe there is hope for us when our knees wear out

I'm not sure implanted sailing memories would be my first choice for memory implants <cue Sid James cackle>
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Originally posted by Riv

My prediction for the future is the rise of the home sailing simulator, literally a short section of boat that you can really sail, heel, rudder loads, main loads, trim etc. Sail in front of your new 4K  50" telly. All the software and control systems are there already. Buy one and really race at home.

Gawd help us, I hope not. Part of the idea is to get out in the fresh air and interact with nature and people different from those we spend our working and home lives with.
Great book for Club Sailors here
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