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    Posted: 27 Jan 15 at 2:47pm
Or maybe they enjoy the smaller water to sail on, and the way the clubs feel like they have a stake in the future of it, whereas at the big club they would simply feel a little lost.
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Originally posted by JohnJack

<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">How many sailing clubs will be left in 20 years time?</span>

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<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">I am sure this is part of another post.</span>
<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">We have three small clubs in </span>relatively<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;"> close proximity. 2 with torrid water (1 river, 1 tiny lake) but brilliant socials sides, t'other with decent sized lake but with no real social side.</span>
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If you could merge all three at the better water, then you would have one of the best sailing clubs in the region.
Shame really, the RYA keeps plowing loads of money into all three where there could be one super club

Yes but you are not accounting for the big fish in those small ponds, they will defend their big fishiness and wont see the bigger picture.
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How many sailing clubs will be left in 20 years time?

I am sure this is part of another post.
We have three small clubs in relatively close proximity. 2 with torrid water (1 river, 1 tiny lake) but brilliant socials sides, t'other with decent sized lake but with no real social side.

If you could merge all three at the better water, then you would have one of the best sailing clubs in the region.

Shame really, the RYA keeps plowing loads of money into all three where there could be one super club
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Originally posted by fab100

Originally posted by Thunder Road

How many sailing clubs will be left in 20 years time?

There's the absolute nub.

I believe that, unless we do something radical and soon, the 'missing generation' means club-sailor numbers will plummet when we 1970s sailing boomers finally hang up our wetsuits, at which point I can imagine at least 50% of dinghy clubs will become uneconomic and disappear.

Einstein defined madness is repeatedly doing the same thing but expecting a different outcome. 

The point at which the RYA will twig this, and realise they have completely destroyed grass-roots sailing in exchange for a few shiny trinkets (aka olympic medals), is when they find they don't have sufficient kids coming along to be cannon fodder for the next medalist to clamber over on their way to the top. By then it will be too late and the damage may well be irreparable. What a waste.

The only hope is we kick some sense into them before it is too late, although sailing falling out of the accursed olympics might help too. I am not optimistic: not many revolutions are led by near-pensioners


Some dinghy clubs have very active youth sections (to the point of bursting at the seams). 

Hunts went through a worrying patch about 7 or 8 years back now but is in much ruder health membership wise now than it was all thanks to having a great training arm. This is what gets the kids out and many parents have given it a go too.
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Originally posted by Thunder Road

How many sailing clubs will be left in 20 years time?

There's the absolute nub.

I believe that, unless we do something radical and soon, the 'missing generation' means club-sailor numbers will plummet when we 1970s sailing boomers finally hang up our wetsuits, at which point I can imagine at least 50% of dinghy clubs will become uneconomic and disappear.

Einstein defined madness is repeatedly doing the same thing but expecting a different outcome. 

The point at which the RYA will twig this, and realise they have completely destroyed grass-roots sailing in exchange for a few shiny trinkets (aka olympic medals), is when they find they don't have sufficient kids coming along to be cannon fodder for the next medalist to clamber over on their way to the top. By then it will be too late and the damage may well be irreparable. What a waste.

The only hope is we kick some sense into them before it is too late, although sailing falling out of the accursed olympics might help too. I am not optimistic: not many revolutions are led by near-pensioners
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I do think there will be a good deal fewer sailing clubs in a few years time and some of the declining active classes will continue to decline into obscurity. A few will manage to pull a rabbit out the hat and will have a resurgence.
 
I agree the Merlin will still be with us and strong and unless someone comes up with and alternative so will the Solo. Also local classes - like the broads classes - will still be going strong (assuming the broads are sailable).
 
Also I agree with the earlier comment that the Olympics will be about entertainment and further detached from the "average" sailor. Not sure about what happens to the Laser, 470 and Finn when they lose Olympic status as they surely will, of the three the 470 would seem to be the one who's demise would be quickest.


Edited by timeintheboat - 27 Jan 15 at 1:38pm
Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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I reckon plenty of Sailing Clubs will be around in 20 years and beyond. 

Messing about on water is an enduring fascination for humans.

We seem currently to be on a wave on interest in all things healthy and outdoors. Walking, hill and mountain is very popular, triathlon is no longer seen as elite only and we've seen the rise of cycling. I can see no reason for sailing not to be part of that, especially for sailing clubs that are in scenic areas that can offer a whole family day out.

The biggest impediment I see to sailing continuing is that it takes itself more and more seriously and spends too much time looking inwards to see the all the people who simply want to have some fun. 
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How many sailing clubs will be left in 20 years time?
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Originally posted by PeterG

<span style="line-height: 15.27272605896px; : rgb251, 251, 253;">Peter G, if you use a Merlin, you'd better make sure it isn't a sought after design...</span>

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<span style="line-height: 15.27272605896px; : rgb251, 251, 253;">If anyone wants to complain afterwards they can come and find me Wink</span>


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The solo will finally realise that keeping that stupid plank of wood on top of the centre board case is a danger to your shins and will get rid of it. Of course the class will still be going with a bandit py
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